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“The Matrix Resurrections” is an excellent movie

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Re: “The Matrix Resurrections” is an excellent movie

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Post by johnisgood »

dragonwriter wrote: post #59
johnisgood wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you! I will try that and see how that goes. :) Edit: I got a stack overflow! Does that mean I should download more RAM, or what am I doing wrong?! --- But seriously, I think the author is referring to evolutionary algorithms. It does not make much sense regardless. Smith and Trinity are crucial to account for, but the author left them out completely.

> or what am I doing wrong?! Not using a a language implementation with tail call optimization, or recursing outside of tail position, probably.

It better be perfect though!!! At what point can I tell that it is in the most perfect state? If we are talking about infinities, is there a point where we can say that it is in a perfect state and it cannot get any more perfect? Is there such a thing as perfect state?

For example:

> It simply means taking something you have, running it again, but running in such a way that it gets slightly better next run.

So... is there an end of this? Physically speaking, there is a limit, yeah, but can we reach the most perfect state where it cannot get any better?

Re: “The Matrix Resurrections” is an excellent movie

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Post by cassianoleal »

johnisgood wrote: post #61
dragonwriter wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> or what am I doing wrong?! Not using a a language implementation with tail call optimization, or recursing outside of tail position, probably.

It better be perfect though!!! At what point can I tell that it is in the most perfect state? If we are talking about infinities, is there a point where we can say that it is in a perfect state and it cannot get any more perfect? Is there such a thing as perfect state? For example: > It simply means taking something you have, running it again, but running in such a way that it gets slightly better next run. So... is…

> is there a point where we can say that it is in a perfect state

I suspect it's asymptotical. You'll need to determine at which point it's close enough to perfection to stop improving, or just let it rip to infinity (and never benefit from it, probably).

Re: “The Matrix Resurrections” is an excellent movie

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Post by evv555 »

emptysongglass wrote: post #41
evv555 wrote: post #24

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>Bad editing, bad shots, bad fight choreography. Is it bad or is it just different from original Matrix and on a higher resolution/framerate? The cinematography reminded me of Jupiter Ascending which wasn't bad imo.

It's not just these things. The dialogue is so poorly written one wonders if the accusations surrounding the first Matrix lifting the script from another screenwriter were true. [1] Who thinks writing in a MILF joke is an appropriate follow-up to such a classic (and classy) film? [1] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sophia-stewart-matrix-laws...

I dunno, this comes off like some sort of hyperbolic fanboyism

Re: “The Matrix Resurrections” is an excellent movie

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Post by johnisgood »

cassianoleal wrote: post #62
johnisgood wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It better be perfect though!!! At what point can I tell that it is in the most perfect state? If we are talking about infinities, is there a point where we can say that it is in a perfect state and it cannot get any more perfect? Is there such a thing as perfect state? For example: > It simply means taking something you have, running it again, but running in such a way that it gets slightly better next run. So... is…

> is there a point where we can say that it is in a perfect state I suspect it's asymptotical. You'll need to determine at which point it's close enough to perfection to stop improving, or just let it rip to infinity (and never benefit from it, probably).

Yeah, fair enough. I am interested in cases where we do not know what we are looking for exactly, or rather, we do not know exactly what "perfect" is. When we can define the state we want perfectly, then we have an easy job, but what if we cannot?

Re: “The Matrix Resurrections” is an excellent movie

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Post by slowmovintarget »

psyc wrote: post #43
qbasic_forever wrote: post #21

shrug I really liked it. It felt like Lana Wachowski re-imagining what they really wanted to do for the first movie, but now 20 years wiser and more experienced. I loved how it brought in more color--some scenes almost reminded me of Speed Racer with all the hues.

You’re not the only one. It’s already my favorite. It’s like the first, but taken a little more seriously. More conventionally dramatic. Less comic booky. The way I wanted the Matrix movies to be treated all along.

It had both some of the elements of the first (deliberate) and much of the nonsense and mysticism of the second and third.

That was what was so childish about 2 and 3, and that childishness remained here. The role-swapping in service of allegory was annoying, as well.

Re: “The Matrix Resurrections” is an excellent movie

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Post by mark_l_watson »

calsy wrote: post #25
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

I have been watching it in 15 minute segments. It is pretty good. Keanu Reeves and Carie-Anne Moss have a nice 30 minute interview on YouTube about making the sequel. I recommend the interview.

So good you can only watch 15 minutes before moving to something else?

Pacing myself

Re: “The Matrix Resurrections” is an excellent movie

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Post by jareklupinski »

great plot and lots of interesting bits, but it feels like they left in absolutely every shot they made? a lot could have been left on the cutting room floor, and the tighter pacing would have improved the movie

e.g. how many shots of agents falling from the sky did we need to see in order to understand how determined they were and how dire things were becoming for our heroes in that chase scene? I think there were 5?

pass me the jog dial and I could cut it down into a 90 min must-see while hitting all the plot points; release the jareklupinski cut ;P (just trimming the shots from the first three movies would have saved 15 min already)

Re: “The Matrix Resurrections” is an excellent movie

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Post by jasondozell »

The first hour was entertaining and interesting but as it became more cluttered with fight scenes i found it boring. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see the appeal of fight scenes where there is no jeopardy or realness.

Back in the day Jackie Chan would do scenes where you knew he would win but the physical impressiveness of what he was doing kept it entertaining. As it’s just a load of CGI that element has gone and it all feels pointless filler. The fact that is in a unreal (matrix) environment just increases the pointlessness.

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