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The Sound of Silence: A Noise Map of the U.S.

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If I was a cop, I would make it my sole mission to ticket each and every one all day long.

This is a perfect example of why cops should be paid more. If you could be convinced to be a cop the world would be a better place.

This is the exact attitude that should be tested for and taken as "going to be a bad cop".

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Being next to the ocean up in the PNW sucks ass. Windy, misty cold for 10 months and then 7 weeks of windy and misty. You get 1 week of pleasant weather spread through the 7.

I tell people the exact same thing to keep them from moving here. It works! ;)

That's what I found strange honestly. I don't know why but I always thought the west coast was great weather. But it sucks. Only southern California had ok weather, but even then the beaches weren't great and the water was cold in summer. The farther North it was like borderline miserable weather.

I guess the weather comparison trope is based on New York and places that it snows a lot, but so much of the US has a far better climate than the west coast.

Re: The Sound of Silence: A Noise Map of the U.S.

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It drives me crazy. I really don't know how other people deal with it. Like my neighbors are so unbelievably loud, its starting to get to me. (I think some cultures identify with being loud?) Or do people just accept a poorer quality of life. Its pretty much the only reason why I think dense living is a bad idea. People are are to inconsiderate of each other to make it work I think and construction quality is too low…

I don't really get it though, like you want it to be quiet everywhere always? I definitely hate motorcycles or loud cars, but I've never been bothered too much by people noises or music. I've lived in highrises and above a night club and it was ok. Construction can be annoying and I once lived next door to a tire shop and that was pretty bad, but even things like fireworks don't bother me. I've lived in nature and on…

Silence is too weird, not all sounds are the same. Like chickens are horrible though and not really a natural part of most environments. I don't want to live on a farm. I didnt think cows were to bad when I stayed next to a small farm.

Some how I can deal with fireworks too though i would be pretty irritated if it happened every night and woke me up or something. Loud music drives me crazy, especially if its not music I enjoy. Bass particularly is bad, i struggle to drown it out with noise. I had a neighbor who I guess wanted to dj, the kick drum would go straight through the wall for hours. Cars that drive by with loud music or idle out side my window i found irritating.

Speaker phone conversations bother me, not sure why, i can usually tune out most regular conversations (except when its not in english?), but they also wake me up. Hearing muffled conversation through a wall is distracting. Loud tvs suck. Children screaming is terrible, babies crying etc.. My downstairs neighbor wakes me up when they start yelling at each other at 7am. Closing doors or cabinets or walking is mostly fine for me.

I guess no unnecessary or sudden, loud, repeated noise would be great. Like a car alarm or a child screaming for no reason. I'm not totally sure what the pattern is or what a tolerable noise is or bad noise is. Crickets are nice, i had no problem when i lived next to a lake with frogs or in pr with coqui frogs. Construction is bad.

Re: The Sound of Silence: A Noise Map of the U.S.

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Related: Cities Aren't Loud, Cars are Loud https://youtu.be/CTV-wwszGw8

People are loud. If you don’t like noise, cities might not be for you.

You did not watch the video.

Video is specifically the claim that cities CAN be quiet, and it gives examples of quiet, dense cities. The title is "Cities aren't loud, cars are loud."

Watch it. You will learn something.

Re: The Sound of Silence: A Noise Map of the U.S.

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Related: Cities Aren't Loud, Cars are Loud https://youtu.be/CTV-wwszGw8

Correction. Internal combustion engines are loud.

Why are you correcting a video you didn't watch? Give it the 17min. You'll learn more about this topic.

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post #54

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If I was a cop, I would make it my sole mission to ticket each and every one all day long.

I dont get why police dont take quality of life crimes more seriously like that. Like if you have a noise problem there is no reason to call the police, they won't show up. What are we paying them for? To write up documents for crimes that happen after the fact?

It's because the police serve the interests of the owning class, and so prioritize things such as corporate property damage and the ability for workers to get to their jobs.

Re: The Sound of Silence: A Noise Map of the U.S.

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Correction. Internal combustion engines are loud.

No, as someone who used to live next to an expressway (45-50 mph traffic), the problem is 95% tire noise. Modern cars not accelerating make very little noise from the ICE. The tires are like nails on a chalkboard to me after living that way for a 5 years. It cut through my apartment walls and morning rush hour served as a mandatory alarm clock. The only time engines were an issue were people with modded exhaust or pe…

This is why I always think it is funny when the topic of creating fake engine noise for electric cars for safety comes up. On a normal modern car you won’t likely hear the engine unless under heavy acceleration.

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Is there a similar map for light pollution? I’m excited Ben trying to find a good place around me to look at the stars at night, just got into stargazing.

I've used https://darksitefinder.com/maps/world.html#4/39.00/-98.00

Thank you

Re: The Sound of Silence: A Noise Map of the U.S.

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Is there a similar map for light pollution? I’m excited Ben trying to find a good place around me to look at the stars at night, just got into stargazing.

This one is nice: https://www.lightpollutionmap.info https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26915536

Thank you

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I think it’s important to differentiate (as this website does) the human made noise from the natural. I love being in the woods / fields / lakes. Fishing, hunting, hiking, etc. when you’re out there for a while you realize how much noise there really is. I wish everyone could / would take a few days a month and just spend it in the the natural world. I feel revived after spending a day or two listening to the leaves…

My partner works for the Forest Service and went to Colorado State University where they have what is called a Listening Lab.. pretty cool stuff.

https://sites.warnercnr.colostate.edu/soundandlightecologyte...

> The Colorado State University Listening Lab was established in 2013 as a collaboration with the Natural Sounds & Night Skies Division of the National Park Service. The primary goal of the lab is to aid in the preservation and understanding of natural soundscapes by providing a resource to efficiently analyze the thousands of hours of acoustic data collected each year within parks, allowing park officials and scientists to promptly employ effective soundscape management decisions where needed.

> The lab typically employs 5 to 10 well-trained undergraduate student listeners to analyze the acoustic data that our NPS Scientists & Research Associates record within national parks around the country. Many of our student listeners are also enrolled in the University Honors Program and use their time in the lab to complete their honors theses. These students have moved beyond basic data analysis and have explored how noise affects the natural world to produce the following theses:

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