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> In accordance with UBC’s CRC Equity, Diversity, & Inclusion Action Plan, and pursuant to Section 42 of the BC Human Rights code, the selection will be restricted to members of the following designated groups: persons with disabilities, Indigenous Peoples, women and gender minorities (transgender, gender-fluid, nonbinary and Two-Spirit people), and racialized minorities. Applicants to CRC positions are asked to comp…
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The pacific northwest, on the Canadian side, has its own divergent terms of inclusivity. Mostly in reference to existing forms of inclusivity that were never controversial in some of the pre-colonial civilizations that already existed there. But require labels and grouping with other edge cases for any meaningful representation and protection in the post-colonial society. That being said, it means the rest of us dont…
Explain like I'm 5?
The commenter indicating that it's 'A Vancouver' thing is not quite right: it's broadly an Aboriginal issue, not just an issue of the West Coast tribes. That said, the commenter is correct in that it's more sensitive issue among the Woke Left in the Vancouver area as it's part of their social consensus lingo.
I suggest if you live in Canada, it's probably something to be aware of as this language will show up in institutions in the East as well.
Despite my reluctance around the kinds of groups running these programs, in the United States sadly there seems to be no effort at all to support Aboriginals as part of the core minorities, in lieu of other groups. And so I don't think we'll see this language on MSNBC anytime soon, though I wish there was more attention to this group as a whole.
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> "Two-spirit" is a new one on me In that case, perhaps google it rather than make glib remarks about it?
Two Spirit is considered a contemporary, umbrella term that is specific to the Indigenous LGBT2QQIA (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, Two Spirit, queer, questioning, intersexual, asexual) community. Frankly I'm not sure whether to laugh at the idea a gender identity can be limited to a specific ethnicity or to condemn it as inherently racist. This is entirely too meta.
And then conform that to majority society while trying to maintain representation and respect. Thats why it looks sillier than it is.
They retroactively adopted the LGBTXYZ
Its not meta, its ignorable
It has nothing to do with us or the level of inclusion we learn to tolerate/appreciate, if you arent in vancouver area (or any place in Canada with pre-colonial civilizations nearby, as someone else wrote)
In this thread: A bunch of people from the U.S. not realizing that employment laws and norms are quite different in Canada, where this kind of "employment equity" (or what is called "affirmative action" in the U.S.) is required, especially for public institutions.
Just to be clear, they seem to be only excluding able-bodied cisgender white men. Which is not to say it's a great policy, but in the interests of precision: > In accordance with UBC’s CRC Equity, Diversity, & Inclusion Action Plan, and pursuant to Section 42 of the BC Human Rights code, the selection will be restricted to members of the following designated groups: persons with disabilities, Indigenous Peoples, wome…
Section 42: Special programs 42 (1)It is not discrimination or a contravention of this Code to plan, advertise, adopt or implement an employment equity program that (a)has as its objective the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups who are disadvantaged because of race, colour, ancestry, place of origin, physical or mental disability, sex, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expressio…
Someone ignoring that sentence, but otherwise applying sound reasoning, will come to the conclusion that it's discrimination.
For instance, if the criminal code said that "a person commits an offense if they thumb their nose at a passing police cruiser", then that would be the one and only sentence which makes that a crime. It could not be deduced from anywhere else.
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> "Two-spirit" is a new one on me In that case, perhaps google it rather than make glib remarks about it?
Two Spirit is considered a contemporary, umbrella term that is specific to the Indigenous LGBT2QQIA (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, Two Spirit, queer, questioning, intersexual, asexual) community. Frankly I'm not sure whether to laugh at the idea a gender identity can be limited to a specific ethnicity or to condemn it as inherently racist. This is entirely too meta.
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> "Two-spirit" is a new one on me In that case, perhaps google it rather than make glib remarks about it?
Two Spirit is considered a contemporary, umbrella term that is specific to the Indigenous LGBT2QQIA (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, Two Spirit, queer, questioning, intersexual, asexual) community. Frankly I'm not sure whether to laugh at the idea a gender identity can be limited to a specific ethnicity or to condemn it as inherently racist. This is entirely too meta.
That's not what is happening here at all. It's a specific term regarding sexuality from a specific culture.
However, correcting a biased system requires that there is a period with enforced change bias to correct the existing bias. This is because there are many ways previous explicitly biased policies entrench that bias even if the current environment is no longer explicitly biased.
Even if we were to assume that everyone is suddenly 0% biased on anything, a lack of explicit corrective actions will necessarily be long and dragged out continuing to harm the classes that are no longer explicitly discriminated against.
So given we know that hiring biases do still exist, and we know that many groups are underrepresented due to historical biases we end up stuck trying to fix a complex problem with very clunky binary tools.
As a very simple example: imagine you have a job where the starting rate for one group is $2 and for the other group it’s $1. Everything else is fair people get raises at the same rate (eg 10% or something). Then one day the law says “no, that’s bullshit”, and now everyone’s starting rate is $2. At this point all the people who were already employed are still earning half as much as their colleagues, despite the policies now being completely “fair”. If you just leave things as they are, eventually things will end up equal across both groups, but you have a potentially multiple generation latency. You could tried to correct the incomes, but that looks like discrimination: “we’re doubling the income of everyone in group B, group A is explicitly excluded”. The thing is in this case, even with this biased 2x income, the disadvantaged group is still worse off, due to the years of unfair compensation. If you try to correct for that you end up with another super biased behaviour.
What we’re seeing is an attempt to correct historical biases, and any such correction is necessarily biased, because otherwise even a perfectly unbiased continues to harm historical victims.
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Explain like I'm 5?
Two Spirit is a broad, generic term for 'Queer' that existed among native peoples pre-colonialisation. The commenter indicating that it's 'A Vancouver' thing is not quite right: it's broadly an Aboriginal issue, not just an issue of the West Coast tribes. That said, the commenter is correct in that it's more sensitive issue among the Woke Left in the Vancouver area as it's part of their social consensus lingo. I sugg…
How thats evolved seems very different from (and frankly incompatible with) the US side.