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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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post #30

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I think it's pretty widely accepted that AWS' own status pages are utterly useless.

Yeah, it was just to confirm that this time was no different :)

In Russia they have a specific name for it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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post #45

4:35 AM PST We are investigating increased EC2 launched failures and networking connectivity issues for some instances in a single Availability Zone (USE1-AZ4) in the US-EAST-1 Region. Other Availability Zones within the US-EAST-1 Region are not affected by this issue. via https://stop.lying.cloud/

Can anyone explain the affiliation of stop.lying.cloud to Amazon? All of the legalese in the header/footer seem to indicate it's actually owned and run by Amazon. If so... why? Why not just... use the real status page? I mean I'm glad it exists, don't get me wrong. Just weird that they'd have two status pages, one seemingly existing only to sort of 'mock' themselves...

I was curious too. An HN user takes credit for it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24499159

Apparently it does some simple transformations of the actual status page, which is why the Amazon copyright stuff is in there.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#63
post #55

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The people who maintain the unofficial site would have, at some point, used their CTRL and C keys followed not immediately, but closely by, their CTRL and V keys.

But that is copyright infringement. You're not allowed to copy some work, modify it, then slap the original copyright on it. This is an illegal website, prone to being taken down by AWS. It's just strange.

I would be worried because getting taken down is Amazon’s speciality.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who maintain the unofficial site would have, at some point, used their CTRL and C keys followed not immediately, but closely by, their CTRL and V keys.

But that is copyright infringement. You're not allowed to copy some work, modify it, then slap the original copyright on it. This is an illegal website, prone to being taken down by AWS. It's just strange.

Yes mate, Internet Police Officer Jeff Bezos has been dispatched and will take this illegal website down right away.

(Using copyrighted material is permitted under fair use; this website is a parody. I’m not a lawyer but at some level preserving the copyright notice is probably better than claiming it as their own.)

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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post #45

4:35 AM PST We are investigating increased EC2 launched failures and networking connectivity issues for some instances in a single Availability Zone (USE1-AZ4) in the US-EAST-1 Region. Other Availability Zones within the US-EAST-1 Region are not affected by this issue. via https://stop.lying.cloud/

Can anyone explain the affiliation of stop.lying.cloud to Amazon? All of the legalese in the header/footer seem to indicate it's actually owned and run by Amazon. If so... why? Why not just... use the real status page? I mean I'm glad it exists, don't get me wrong. Just weird that they'd have two status pages, one seemingly existing only to sort of 'mock' themselves...

Amazon's own status page sort of lies. So someone probably wget-ed the status page, kept the same html and css and hooked it to their own API to display correct info.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same issue with unavailable, but on an instance in us-east-1b. Finally just got the force stop to go through a minute ago and it's now running and available again.

Your us-east-1b may be the parents us-east-1c. The letters are randomised per AWS account so that instances are spread evenly and biases to certain letters don't lead to biases to certain zones.

Huh, that's interesting. Didn't know that, but makes sense.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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post #45

4:35 AM PST We are investigating increased EC2 launched failures and networking connectivity issues for some instances in a single Availability Zone (USE1-AZ4) in the US-EAST-1 Region. Other Availability Zones within the US-EAST-1 Region are not affected by this issue. via https://stop.lying.cloud/

Can anyone explain the affiliation of stop.lying.cloud to Amazon? All of the legalese in the header/footer seem to indicate it's actually owned and run by Amazon. If so... why? Why not just... use the real status page? I mean I'm glad it exists, don't get me wrong. Just weird that they'd have two status pages, one seemingly existing only to sort of 'mock' themselves...

FWIW `lying.cloud` is registered with Namecheap. `amazon.com`/`aws.com`/`amazon.ca` are all registered with Mark Monitor. And I know that AWS uses ghandi behind the scenes for domain reg. Given that, I'd hazard a guess that it's not owned by Amazon. Definitely not a guarantee though.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#70
post #14

Is there a history of AWS downtimes available somewhere? This makes what, three times in as many months? edit: The question isn't necessarily AWS specific, just any data on amount of downtime per cloud provider on a timeline would be nice.

I don't know about AWS, but both Google Cloud and Oracle Cloud maintain at least a high level history of past outages. See https://status.cloud.google.com/summary and https://ocistatus.oraclecloud.com/history
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