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Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TP-Link OnHub is still for sale on Newegg right now. I don't see how Google can control the behavior of retailers of 3rd-party hardware.

They still advertise it on their own website https://on.google.com/hub/?main=retail , so they expect it to be still selling.

From that page:

> OnHub’s software includes advanced and always-evolving security features that update automatically to help protect your network, your data, and all your devices.

LOL

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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When a company stops supporting the product, should they release source code so community can support it? If it turns out the product is unsafe through unfixed security holes should you be able to get a refund?

Maybe.. OnHub has a command-and-control network in the cloud, with which you interact using the Home (formerly: Wifi) app on your mobile. I guess they are ending support for OnHub control protocols in the cloud. So you'd need to replace the software in the router such that it could be controlled some other way.

Right; personally I'd be quite happy if the EOL process was "here's all the needed source code to build a kernel and trivial userland, and steps to build and flash a firmware image that boots a busybox shell but doesn't have our management binaries" and then let the community do whatever they want (since that's basically what you want in order to repurpose the thing or build OpenWRT for it).

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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> Looking at that, I'm wondering who is stupid enough to buy a new device from them like this. It is like 'bite me once, bite me again please.'. 'eh, we just self destroyed your device, because, fuck you, but here is a coupon to buy a new one from us that we will also kill in a few years' ...

I probably will. The OnHub has performed substantially better than the other consumer wireless routers I've used, and after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway. Might as well take the discount.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Btw Onhub does not even have a browser accessible interface like every router has. The only way to manage it is through the app (that they will decommission).

Reviewers and experts called this out at the time, but Google reassured that onhub will not face any issues since they will commit to long term support of the device. As a testament to that they highlighted the overspecification of the device (it had enormous ram and cpu overhead) that would allow it to continuously improve.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Okay, seeing this news and the fact that that onhub page is still up on google's site, I'm certainly not going to get a google nest (and I literally had them in my basket in google store). I understand retiring without much notice of free for users websites/services, but retiring hardware is IMO a different thing...

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How come smaller companies like Zyxel and Asus have solved this problem decades ago? Maybe because they support their hardware for years after they stopped producing, so the stock clears?

Do they though? Are there regular security updates for their products for every one of their models? My suspicion is they just silently stop support.

It's one thing to leave some obscure issue unpatched in a functional product, but to leave a product non-functional is such vandalism that I will avoid them like the plague.

But yes, every time i bought one of their products i had 5 years of updates, and by that time it was out of retail for years.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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> You won’t be able to update things like Wi-Fi network settings, add additional Wifi devices, or run speed tests. Wow, I'm not familiar if users are forced to use the Google Home app, but that seems a bit drastic to stop users from even changing the most basic settings?

The dedicated apps are being discontinued across the board. I have Google mesh Wifi system and get told that "Your network was migrated to the Home app" when launching the Google Wifi app. You can continue and it still works so far. You can also use the Google Home app now if you want to manage your wifi settings with a worse UX. Edit: Being forced to use an app is not new. If you visit your routers ip address you ge…

Same for the nest thermostats, the best app still works as well, and it’s nicer and feels faster (although both are slow).
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