The rise and fall of rationality in language • Hacker News Board

Re: The rise and fall of rationality in language

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Post by michaelmrose » Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 10:13 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #60

michaelmrose wrote: post #23

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Please don't take HN thread further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We've had to ask you about this quite a few times already. Would you please review the site guidelines and stick to the rules when posting to HN? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28859501 (Oct 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28238567 (Aug 20…

Our society is crashing in slow motion. I'll try to stick to tech here since there is plenty of other places to talk about that.

Re: The rise and fall of rationality in language

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Post by CryptoPunk » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 11:28 AM UTC

naasking wrote: post #25

> Perhaps more importantly, there could be a connection to tensions arising from neoliberal policies which were defended on rational arguments, while the economic fruits were reaped by an increasingly small fraction of societies The decline of collectivism and the rise of individualism following the near total destruction of unions and the labour movement? Sound like a pretty significant contributor to me.

Unions in the private sector destroyed themselves. They bankrupted nearly every private domestic industry where they predominated.

That is what caused their membership rates to decline. They are now poised to take over the new bright spots of the US economy: Amazon and Tesla, and destroy these golden geese, for the short term benefit of their members, just as they did to the ones before them.

In the one sector where expenses are socialized, and thus which doesn't go bankrupt easily, they have gotten increasingly powerful.

Government social welfare spending has rapidly grown, at the behest of public sector unions who increasingly control the political system:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/social-spending-oecd-long...

A couple anecdotes illuminates the kind of power these unions wield:

New York has nearly 300,000 unionized public sector employees receiving over $100,000 a year:

https://archive.md/JnJQY

In California, emergency workers can retire at 55 with 90% of their pension, that averages $108,000 per year.

California now has $1 trillion in pension obligations for its unionized public sector workers.

Re: The rise and fall of rationality in language

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Post by hattmall » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 11:38 PM UTC

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #49

hattmall wrote: post #48

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Or you know having your tribe so convinced that they impeach the sitting president twice. People were calling for impeachment since day one. And in 2020 there isn't zero reason to think the election was stolen. There is overwhelming evidence that the amount of likely fraudulent ballots cast exceeds the margin of victory in several states.

Present it

https://hereistheevidence.com/