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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by popcube »

pasabagi wrote: post #40
civilized wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps a fair point, but I don't think it's remotely comparable to the topic at hand. We're talking about Chinese-born students in America being ratted out to the Chinese government for exercising their free expression rights like model American citizens, even though they are foreigners. If I had the relevant Presidential powers, I'd offer citizenship to every one of the threatened students, and the rats would be se…

It would be kinda interesting if somebody actually implemented a law like this: all citizens without free speech get automatic asylum. You'd have half of the world turning up on your doorstep within a month. More seriously, it's also interesting when you think back to how asylum worked during the cold war. Migrants, even explicit economic migrants, were encouraged to emigrate from communist countries (cuba, east germ…

you know, this is why so many scientists migrated to USA

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by civilized »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #55
civilized wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps a fair point, but I don't think it's remotely comparable to the topic at hand. We're talking about Chinese-born students in America being ratted out to the Chinese government for exercising their free expression rights like model American citizens, even though they are foreigners. If I had the relevant Presidential powers, I'd offer citizenship to every one of the threatened students, and the rats would be se…

Kinda bizarre assumption that the Chinese nationals getting their education in the USA automatically want to become citizens of the USA.

Your assumption that I'm assuming that is even more bizarre. But regardless, plenty of them do want to become citizens -- especially the kind that speaks their mind in public. There's nothing wrong with making the offer.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary.

Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning.

It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by swsieber »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #55
civilized wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps a fair point, but I don't think it's remotely comparable to the topic at hand. We're talking about Chinese-born students in America being ratted out to the Chinese government for exercising their free expression rights like model American citizens, even though they are foreigners. If I had the relevant Presidential powers, I'd offer citizenship to every one of the threatened students, and the rats would be se…

Kinda bizarre assumption that the Chinese nationals getting their education in the USA automatically want to become citizens of the USA.

That's not what was said. I think the offer is nice even if they don't want it.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by oauea »

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by quartz »

fefe23 wrote: post #8

I find it highly entertaining that they talk about denying rights and then deny the whole of the EU access because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

I feel like you've got that backwards: making the site available if it violates GDPR would be violating your rights. Making the site unavailable to you is respecting them.

That's not to mention that what's much more likely here is that a student focused and student run campus newspaper in West Lafayette, IN likely just considers the EU out of scope of their audience vs the cost of figuring out if they're GDPR compliant.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by luciusdomitius »

pasabagi wrote: post #40
civilized wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps a fair point, but I don't think it's remotely comparable to the topic at hand. We're talking about Chinese-born students in America being ratted out to the Chinese government for exercising their free expression rights like model American citizens, even though they are foreigners. If I had the relevant Presidential powers, I'd offer citizenship to every one of the threatened students, and the rats would be se…

It would be kinda interesting if somebody actually implemented a law like this: all citizens without free speech get automatic asylum. You'd have half of the world turning up on your doorstep within a month. More seriously, it's also interesting when you think back to how asylum worked during the cold war. Migrants, even explicit economic migrants, were encouraged to emigrate from communist countries (cuba, east germ…

This is a very shallow statement. Probably 99.99% of people fleeing the above-mentioned communist countries were detained at border and sent to camps with tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands being literally murdered while attempting to do so. Obviously the big difference in this case is the numbers of potential asylum seekers, not the origin.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by drcongo »

Majestic121 wrote: post #47
qeternity wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American living in London, I find GDPR blocks extremely annoying…but I blame GDPR. It is a well intentioned law but horribly scoped. If I were the technical staff at a regional university in the US, I wouldn’t invest in compliance with a law that in theory can issue severe penalties. I would simply block that traffic, as they and many others have done.

Compliance is easy : don't add the code that track users and you're compliant. If you do insist on tracking, make it opt out by default.

You mean opt in by default / opted out by default?

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by t-3 »

Majestic121 wrote: post #47
qeternity wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American living in London, I find GDPR blocks extremely annoying…but I blame GDPR. It is a well intentioned law but horribly scoped. If I were the technical staff at a regional university in the US, I wouldn’t invest in compliance with a law that in theory can issue severe penalties. I would simply block that traffic, as they and many others have done.

Compliance is easy : don't add the code that track users and you're compliant. If you do insist on tracking, make it opt out by default.

So, I have to disable logging on my servers to comply with your regulations? No thanks.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by gpvos »

tephra wrote: post #60
gpvos wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chances are basically 100% that the EU won't go after a student newspaper, so in practice yes. But in theory no.

We'll also because they would not fall into the scope of the GDPR.

Possibly. They don't seem to have Europeans as the audience, but I don't know about the details of how the rules work exactly.
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