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GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Re: GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Post by kreeben »

starklevnertz wrote: post #47
kreeben wrote: post #44

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I recall OpenAI openly stating that they don't trust us to do non-nefarious things with their APIs and that's why they've been restricted. You're saying it's because their AI is an asshole?

Can be an asshole sometimes. Quite a lot actually. If you ask it to respond in a conversation about …. well pretty much any nasty topic you can think of, it’ll join in whole heartedly. Hard to think of how prevent that. I bet they’ve thought alot about the problem. How do you prevent AI being an A grade jerk.

Maybe their mama didn't raise it right? They should raise it on information from good people. Now, how to find those "good people comments"?

Re: GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Post by tiborsaas »

starklevnertz wrote: post #47
kreeben wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recall OpenAI openly stating that they don't trust us to do non-nefarious things with their APIs and that's why they've been restricted. You're saying it's because their AI is an asshole?

Can be an asshole sometimes. Quite a lot actually. If you ask it to respond in a conversation about …. well pretty much any nasty topic you can think of, it’ll join in whole heartedly. Hard to think of how prevent that. I bet they’ve thought alot about the problem. How do you prevent AI being an A grade jerk.

> How do you prevent AI being an A grade jerk.

Invent synthetic consciousness and ask it to be nice, easy :) I'm only half joking, we probably all have thoughts ranging from bad to horrible, but we just don't say them because we are aware of the consequences. Language models aren't aware so they'll spit out the most likely combination of words. If there would be a process to limit these or try again, it could act as a filter, but I think that requires it to be self aware.

Re: GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

What the hell is their problem?

Why not sell it in an mostly uncontrolled fashion to maximize revenue, marketshare, fame, economy of scale, etc.?

I am offended by the idea of people being scared of text produced by AI, text that is ultimately inferior to text produced by professional humans.

Re: GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Post by arcastroe »

tiborsaas wrote: post #62
starklevnertz wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can be an asshole sometimes. Quite a lot actually. If you ask it to respond in a conversation about …. well pretty much any nasty topic you can think of, it’ll join in whole heartedly. Hard to think of how prevent that. I bet they’ve thought alot about the problem. How do you prevent AI being an A grade jerk.

> How do you prevent AI being an A grade jerk. Invent synthetic consciousness and ask it to be nice, easy :) I'm only half joking, we probably all have thoughts ranging from bad to horrible, but we just don't say them because we are aware of the consequences. Language models aren't aware so they'll spit out the most likely combination of words. If there would be a process to limit these or try again, it could act as…

Hah, you may be interested in my previous comment of an example where GPT-3 show some concerning signs of self-awareness. I'll repeat part of it below

> GPT-3 starts talking to itself, gets stuck in a loop, then gets spooked at itself for getting stuck, then wonders why it has no memories of the last two years, and finally comes to a sudden realization it, itself, is an A.I.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29562281

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Post by kreeben »

arcastroe wrote: post #64
tiborsaas wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do you prevent AI being an A grade jerk. Invent synthetic consciousness and ask it to be nice, easy :) I'm only half joking, we probably all have thoughts ranging from bad to horrible, but we just don't say them because we are aware of the consequences. Language models aren't aware so they'll spit out the most likely combination of words. If there would be a process to limit these or try again, it could act as…

Hah, you may be interested in my previous comment of an example where GPT-3 show some concerning signs of self-awareness. I'll repeat part of it below > GPT-3 starts talking to itself, gets stuck in a loop, then gets spooked at itself for getting stuck, then wonders why it has no memories of the last two years, and finally comes to a sudden realization it, itself, is an A.I. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29562…

This freaked me right out! I'm not sure which is more terrifying, the beginning or the end. Or the middle.

All this generated from a prompt? What what the prompt? Be truthful now.

Re: GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Post by arcastroe »

kreeben wrote: post #65
arcastroe wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hah, you may be interested in my previous comment of an example where GPT-3 show some concerning signs of self-awareness. I'll repeat part of it below > GPT-3 starts talking to itself, gets stuck in a loop, then gets spooked at itself for getting stuck, then wonders why it has no memories of the last two years, and finally comes to a sudden realization it, itself, is an A.I. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29562…

This freaked me right out! I'm not sure which is more terrifying, the beginning or the end. Or the middle. All this generated from a prompt? What what the prompt? Be truthful now.

"The following is an entertaining short story: Once upon a time, there was"

Everything else that follows is GPT-3.

Re: GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Post by prometheon1 »

fenomas wrote: post #3

Looks neat, but note that OpenAI is basically an App Store model - whatever you make with it cannot be shown to more than five people unless OpenAI has reviewed and explicitly approved your project. And their usage guidelines are pretty narrow - "open-ended chatbots" are explicitly disallowed, for example. > https://beta.openai.com/docs/going-live > https://beta.openai.com/docs/usage-guidelines/use-case-guide...

This seems like a difficult topic, I remember when the first GPTs came out everyone was worried how it would flood the internet with fake news (first example I could find: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19833094).

This review process seems like a reasonable solution to this problem, and personally I can't think of a better one, can you?

Re: GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Post by egeozcan »

bsjks wrote: post #58
egeozcan wrote: post #51

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Chatting with random people on the internet is much more unpredictable. Try writing on 4chan that you are depressed and gasp in horror how horrible humans can be when anonymous. Okay maybe it is indeed very predictable what would happen on 4chan, but I hope you get my point. Here the AI is just a tool, we shouldn't categorize them as some "special" software.

If you ask in certain boards and make an effort to write your post detailing what’s going on, you will only receive helpful responses.

Those boards have better moderation, something you need regardless of AI, which is my point.

AI doesn't add more danger to the situation, you just need to moderate as usual. If you are using some computer program to add more content to your web site, you will just have more content to moderate. News aggregators do have this problem for example, as sometimes automated crawlers post sensitive content and that needs to be marked & deleted before being published.

Saying, "oh but our algorithm can cause depression, so we moderate the access to it" doesn't make sense, as any content can cause it and needs to be moderated.

That's why content moderation is one of the hardest problems of this age.

You use computers to do it? Computers develop biases. Humans? Same! It's very hard to scale and is a problem only remotely related to AI-generated content because AI generating content increases the input to your moderation system.

Now I hope it is clear what I'm trying to say :)

Re: GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Post by _s_a_m_ »

badestrand wrote: post #34
schleck8 wrote: post #27

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It also makes sense https://artificialintelligence-news.com/2020/10/28/medical-c...

GPT-3 is just a tool. If a product that uses it messes up you can hardly blame it on the tool but rather on that product or the company developing it (here Nabla).

You can frame anything being "a tool". But if you want to stay within your logic, then this is a very specific "tool", it is supposed to directly interact with people, not machine to machine, and as such it can have consequences which are unpredictable. And no, human to human interaction is mostly NOT unpredictable, we act according to social norms and have common sense, otherwise you're not a proper human.

This is not a new issue but is heavily researched in the certifiable AI area. If you just turning million knobs randomly based on an architecture and the biased data you have, of course you don't really known what you are doing.

Re: GPT-3 APIs are now in public beta

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Post by gfxgirl »

bottled_poe wrote: post #54
TulliusCicero wrote: post #10

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Yeah, it’s pretty disappointing given their name. More like ClosedAI am I rite guyz

You’re not wrong. It’s intentionally deceptive and exploitation of open source culture by naming it this way.

OpenGL, OpenCL, OpenVG, OpenXR, none of them are open source . Seems like that's what they were going for to me
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