Perhaps AWS just hasn't paid their networking egress fees to Amazon, you know?
AWS down again?
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#62Only the most informed and rational companies will see how and why most of this "in the cloud" thing is a bad idea. Most will accept it as a fact of life and continue to pay for it both directly and indirectly, as long as there's cheap money going around the cloud business can't do wrong. But it's hilarious to see people indulging in byzantine "World scale" resilient systems that depend on a single vendor.
Try calling "your ops guy" during Thanksgiving or when he is sloshed in a bar when your colocation servers stop responding. No one wants this job anymore. Current technology jobs have already enough unnecessary complexity to deal with uptime as well.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mine is in Japanese: > 申し訳ありません。 > リクエストの処理中に問題が発生しました。 現在問題を調査しておりますので、解決するまでもう少々お待ちください。
Gotta love how polite standard business Japanese is. It's no wonder they named their moon probe after this national treasure of a philosophy.
I don't follow. It seems like an almost exact translation to all the other languages for this error page.
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#64Only the most informed and rational companies will see how and why most of this "in the cloud" thing is a bad idea. Most will accept it as a fact of life and continue to pay for it both directly and indirectly, as long as there's cheap money going around the cloud business can't do wrong. But it's hilarious to see people indulging in byzantine "World scale" resilient systems that depend on a single vendor.
Do you think people who manage their own data-centers never have outages?
When they do, they at least have the ability to do something about it.
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#65The worst part of AWS outages is that their status page is always green. It's OK to fail but it's not OK to hide the failure and expect all the customers to stumble upon the failure especially for a company as big as AWS. Not OK!
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#66I think this adds some momentum to the pendulum swinging back the other way. Maybe cloud teams can patch your services better than your in-house team can (See 2 critical issues in Azure the last 3 months, _caused_ by MS itself). Maybe the cloud has a higher uptime than your on-premise infrastructure (see the AWS, Azure outages). Make sure to compare the actual outage time v.s. the stats doctored by various political…
Even if you can manage more uptime on your own than through the cloud (which I doubt), being on the cloud means downtime is correlated with downtime of other services. That's usually a good thing. Your customers will be more understanding if your outage is part if a wider outage that makes national news. Any services you integrate with are likely down too. If two services with 99% uncorrelated uptime together drops t…
> Your customers will be more understanding if your outage is part if a wider outage that makes national news.
Yes they definitely are.
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#67Only the most informed and rational companies will see how and why most of this "in the cloud" thing is a bad idea. Most will accept it as a fact of life and continue to pay for it both directly and indirectly, as long as there's cheap money going around the cloud business can't do wrong. But it's hilarious to see people indulging in byzantine "World scale" resilient systems that depend on a single vendor.
Would you rather have to fix your own data center, or wait 4 hours.
AWS works 99% of the time,plus it's someone else's problem
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#68I think this adds some momentum to the pendulum swinging back the other way. Maybe cloud teams can patch your services better than your in-house team can (See 2 critical issues in Azure the last 3 months, _caused_ by MS itself). Maybe the cloud has a higher uptime than your on-premise infrastructure (see the AWS, Azure outages). Make sure to compare the actual outage time v.s. the stats doctored by various political…
Even if you can manage more uptime on your own than through the cloud (which I doubt), being on the cloud means downtime is correlated with downtime of other services. That's usually a good thing. Your customers will be more understanding if your outage is part if a wider outage that makes national news. Any services you integrate with are likely down too. If two services with 99% uncorrelated uptime together drops t…
Exactly! Furthermore, your customers will likely be AWS customers themselves so will have bigger issues to contend with
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#69I get the "We're sorry!" page on this link, but when I go to console.aws.amazon.com it works.
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#70Anyone feel like Big Tech outages are happening more frequently recently? In recent months, we’ve seen Amazon Web Services, Facebook, Gmail, and Twitter go down. Are we at the point where the people who maintain the infrastructure are now completely different than the ones who built it, and are struggling to keep it running because they don’t understand it as well?
I was thinking something similar. The FAANG interview has been optimized to punish candidates with actual experience in these problems in favor of those that can solve leetcode problems and regurgitate design architectures from youtube. This filters out a lot of engineers with grit that can actually work through tough real world (IT) problems.