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Re: I host this blog from my garage

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Post by moooo99 »

tlamponi wrote: post #59
MonaroVXR wrote: post #55

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Do you have suggestions for cheap hosting in Europe?

A OVH or Hetzner VPS can get you a long way for 3.5 to 5€ a month, and they're both quite established and not just a one-man show hoster. Also, you get an actual VM, not just a container, so you can do pretty much everything with it. For network stability I'd prefer OVH, but they only offer you a single IPv6 address, which is just stupid - but depending on your use case that may not be so relevant to you. Hetzners VP…

Absolutely agree on Hetzner. For raw compute Hetzner managed to create a fairly compelling offering. The pricing is very affordable and the performance seems as expected, not as unpredictable as with lots of small hosters

Re: I host this blog from my garage

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Post by mro_name »

shosti wrote: post #25
mro_name wrote: post #23

wouldn't a raspberry pi do it from within the drawer? Not only https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com does similar, but https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/raspberry-pi-3-4-web-s... has some numbers. Seems feasible, unless you are the NYT.

Yeah that’s what I would do if I was just hosting a blog, I already had the k8s lab set up for other reasons and wanted to get more use out of it.

got it.

Found the solar numbers meanwhile: https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2020/01/how-sustainable-is...

Re: I host this blog from my garage

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Post by stefandesu »

MonaroVXR wrote: post #55
david422 wrote: post #51

I used to run my own personal website out of my home. Until I went for a job interview and gave out a link to my website. But the site was down ... and when I got home my cat was chewing on the ethernet wire. So found some cheap virtual hosting that was much more stable.

Do you have suggestions for cheap hosting in Europe?

A cheap one that I had good experience with is https://contabo.com.

Re: I host this blog from my garage

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Post by nicbou »

david422 wrote: post #51

I used to run my own personal website out of my home. Until I went for a job interview and gave out a link to my website. But the site was down ... and when I got home my cat was chewing on the ethernet wire. So found some cheap virtual hosting that was much more stable.

My robot vacuum bumped into the power bar and unplugged the server. It was the most clever state-sponsored cyberattack I've ever witnessed.

Re: I host this blog from my garage

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Post by throwaway894345 »

btilly wrote: post #44
throwaway894345 wrote: post #41

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> Sorry, but we did all of that 20 years ago, and those approaches remain a lot simpler for basic use cases. Yeah, we did, and they were complicated then and they're complicated now. The difference is some of us have decades of experience which make them feel simpler. > And if you think that Kubernetes is always the right approach, then you clearly are NOT aware of the tradeoffs. I was very explicit that Kubernetes i…

Kubernetes wraps several layers of abstraction around the old way of doing things. There is no world in which the operation of the site is in any way clarified by involving Kubernetes. Kubernetes also adds performance overhead. There are things which are easier with Kubernetes. But only after you've climbed a long learning curve. From what I've seen, even people without "decades of experiment" find the non-abstracted…

I think we have starkly different experiences then. I’ve been part of several orgs that started out doing it “the old way”, and anything to do with servers was so difficult that it was relegated to a team of experts. Then we introduced Kubernetes and while there was a learning curve, the development teams were able to own significantly more of the infrastructure with the infrastructure experts owning management of the core and a few convenience operators. Stories like this are echoed all over—that’s virtually the DevOps narrative—container orchestration enables development teams to own their own infrastructure with a dedicated team maintaining a common platform.

Moreover, for single-server use cases, Docker Compose eschews a lot of the complexity that Kubernetes brings for HA purposes while also masking over much of the complexity of managing bare servers.

The Kubernetes (and other container orchestrators) learning curve is substantial, but it masks a lot of incidental complexity that operators would otherwise need to understand to do it themselves.

Re: I host this blog from my garage

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Post by treesknees »

Lhiw wrote: post #42
jmnicolas wrote: post #16

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I have seen production servers run for ten years upstairs a dirty bus repair shop. The room is never cleaned so there's a few millimeters of black dust on everything. In fact you know the age of a server depending on the amount of dust on it. There's a defective A/C unit that sometimes throw some water all around. There's power cut 2 or 3 times a year, the batteries are old so the servers get their hard reboot. As fa…

I spent some time with a computer refurber back in the day. He used to buy old computers from mining operations these things were literally filled to the brim with dust and weird shit. Computers are amazingly resilient if you don't need them for much more than office work.

This sparked a memory of an internship I had where I was given an air compressor and had to go blow out machines in various school computer labs for a few weeks. In hindsight I should have worn an N95, they were nasty. They all worked, though.

Re: I host this blog from my garage

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Post by scubbo »

hogFeast wrote: post #28
shosti wrote: post #14

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I would say you don't really need Kubernetes for this sort of setup (I already was running all the K8s stuff which is why I went with it, but docker compose or even just running things in systemd without containers would work too). I think the main thing is to have some sort of network isolation (like a separate VLAN or a server that blocks outbound traffic) between stuff that's exposed to the internet and stuff that…

I use wireguard/iptables for this. I have one small VPS with access to wireguard network, wireguard rule to forward certain traffic to a virtual machine running on my desktop, fairly easy to setup tbh (and I add/remove devices constantly). I am not a networking person, my understanding of iptables is shaky but I also ran a similar setup with Nginx. Could also use TailScale, but I found the wireguard CLI very easy. St…

Huh - I'm using Wireguard as my VPN into my home network (the only port that I have opened to the outside world), but I didn't know that you could also use it to route incoming requests to a certain VM. There's always something else to learn! Thank you :)

Re: I host this blog from my garage

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Post by btilly »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #65
btilly wrote: post #44

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Kubernetes wraps several layers of abstraction around the old way of doing things. There is no world in which the operation of the site is in any way clarified by involving Kubernetes. Kubernetes also adds performance overhead. There are things which are easier with Kubernetes. But only after you've climbed a long learning curve. From what I've seen, even people without "decades of experiment" find the non-abstracted…

I think we have starkly different experiences then. I’ve been part of several orgs that started out doing it “the old way”, and anything to do with servers was so difficult that it was relegated to a team of experts. Then we introduced Kubernetes and while there was a learning curve, the development teams were able to own significantly more of the infrastructure with the infrastructure experts owning management of th…

The fact that you're talking about organizations large enough to have multiple development teams which serve their stuff separately puts you squarely in my case #2.

A 50 person company with <10 developers has very different problems.

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