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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by bborud »

echelon wrote: post #2

Any perspective on the best TLDs for startups? .com is obviously the preferred choice, but from my perspective these are the next best picks: - .io for B2B, SAAS, etc. startups. Occasionally makes sense for B2C (itch.io, etc.) Seems to be falling out of fashion, though. - .ai is the top choice for ML-based startups. These are really hot now. - .dev for the occasional SAAS or library. Doesn't make sense B2C. - .app if…

Isn't that mostly a risk and marketing question? How seriously can you expect the TLD to be managed in the future and what do you want to communicate.

My own personal bias makes me a bit wary of "novelty" TLDs since you can't really know how they will be managed in the future. Would you use a banking service that has a novelty domain? Perhaps not. Would you use a piece of software that is hosted on the same TLD? Probably.

I have no idea if my own personal bias is shared by any significant portion of the internet population. Nor do I think my bias is consistent (for instance I can't really decide if ".io" is a novelty/fad TLD or not. Some days I think it is).

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by KingMachiavelli »

cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

I thought domain squatting violated US law? Is there some loophole or is paying just cheaper/quicker?

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by stinos »

echelon wrote: post #2

Any perspective on the best TLDs for startups? .com is obviously the preferred choice, but from my perspective these are the next best picks: - .io for B2B, SAAS, etc. startups. Occasionally makes sense for B2C (itch.io, etc.) Seems to be falling out of fashion, though. - .ai is the top choice for ML-based startups. These are really hot now. - .dev for the occasional SAAS or library. Doesn't make sense B2C. - .app if…

This is basically treating the TLD like the next buzzword, but in the end: does this have any practical effect apart from being cool in the eye of the owner? I mean I've been there and done that, but all things considered it doesn't actually seem to matter - there's still the domain as well. Though I might be missing something.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by cxr »

cpach wrote: post #13

Related: I strongly prefer to renew yearly, so that I have a working routine for renewal.

This works: Make use of the "renew yearly" strategy, but make sure that at any given time you're already paid up for the next 2–3 years. This will give you a wide margin for error (and a comfortable timetable to fix them).

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by tyingq »

vadfa wrote: post #52
tyingq wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an odd comment to me. Different TLDs have different pricing, different restrictions, and so on. Giving the topic some thought isn't stupid. And .com is a pretty crowded namespace.

>different pricing .com is the cheapest >different restrictions .com has the fewest Anything else?

>.com is the cheapest

It isn't, either for initial purchase or renewal, and that's pretty easy to verify.

>>different restrictions - .com has the fewest

How so?

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by stjo »

snarf21 wrote: post #57
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

You have to increase the yearly renewal even more (imo). $120/year is only $10 a month. That is two coffees at Starbucks. If that is too expensive for your legitimate non-commercial purpose, then you probably don't really need a domain. Yeah, some squatters may still try the long game but it starts to get cost prohibitive. The hope would be that if it is expensive enough, the squatters may only hold the most likely T…

> So if ".cars" is added, Ford would get the first shot at ford.cars

Actually .cars exists and ford.cars is indeed taken by Ford.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by echelon »

sgeisenh wrote: post #5
echelon wrote: post #2

Any perspective on the best TLDs for startups? .com is obviously the preferred choice, but from my perspective these are the next best picks: - .io for B2B, SAAS, etc. startups. Occasionally makes sense for B2C (itch.io, etc.) Seems to be falling out of fashion, though. - .ai is the top choice for ML-based startups. These are really hot now. - .dev for the occasional SAAS or library. Doesn't make sense B2C. - .app if…

Not for a startup, but .codes is pretty nice for personal or portfolio websites.

I used that TLD for word play on vocoder with https://vo.codes

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by adzm »

baybal2 wrote: post #51

Why .io domains are so popular?

Because they are cool! Also identifies something as having developers or technical folk as the target audience. And because of it's popularity, it's one of the few generally trusted top-level domains (by both humans and mail daemons)

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by echelon »

tyingq wrote: post #65
vadfa wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>different pricing .com is the cheapest >different restrictions .com has the fewest Anything else?

>.com is the cheapest It isn't, either for initial purchase or renewal, and that's pretty easy to verify. >>different restrictions - .com has the fewest How so?

Country code TLDs (ccTLDs) [1] often have rules set by the country of origin. These rules vary widely, but some of them include country of residency requirements (you can't buy as a foreigner), ban on pornography, or strict adherence to religious requirements.

Popular domain hack ccTLD .ly is required to adhere to Libyan and Islamic/Sharia Law [2]

(edit because my posting is rate limited: )

There are plenty of non-ccTLDs, though, including thousands of gTLDs.

You can register a .horse domain if you want, and as far as I know, there are no restrictions on use.

You just need to research what you're buying.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ly

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by orangepanda »

cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

How about hiding the address bar? Would make domain names irrelevant
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