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Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by buescher »

thelittleone wrote: post #37
thih9 wrote: post #8

Context: “Elizabeth Holmes says Theranos’ former president abused her”, https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/29/22809049/elizabeth-holme... > Holmes’ lawyer moved into evidence a bizarre handwritten document. Holmes said she recognized the handwriting as Balwani’s. (...) The document contained instructions such as, “Every morning I will force myself out of bed and spend 30 minutes+ (never a minute less) to write what I w…

The Raffles hotel is probably the most expensive hotel in Singapore.

Also the birthplace of the Singapore sling cocktail. It's famous.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by FireBeyond »

handrous wrote: post #34
fragmede wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Executives, whether they're sociopaths or not, don't have to hold that schedule all on their own. They have executive assistants and personal assistants (not always different people) to help them with that. I dunno, if I had someone who's job it was to help keep me on that schedule, I think I'd have better luck than the plebes do, don't you?

Not having to do any of your own: housekeeping/cooking/laundry; child-running-around (if you have kids); maintenance on anything including even scheduling work to be done; driving; schedule-keeping; filtering (turning down calls and such from people you have no intention of talking to—your assistant does that for you); shopping (even for stuff you want, but don't need—"assistant; I'd like an X by next week, please fi…

Very true. There's a meme I see every so often. "Work out for an hour a day. It's 4% of your day. What's your excuse?"

Uhh, well, other than the fact that it's closer to 25% of my _available_ day (8h sleep, 8h work, 1h commute, 1h preparation, 1h meals), you mean?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by kshacker »

khazhoux wrote: post #57

The single most important task for a CEO at a large company is to publicize their daily schedule, describing how they rise at either 5am or 6am (Holmes goes a step further), and then work out and take care of a large amount of business before the rest of the common people even wake up. Bonus points for preparing and having breakfast with your small children after your workout and morning email/decision-making routine…

Wow you pretty much describe me ... except for me being a CEO, or a CxO, or even just an O. So I guess just my superiority over everyone else. I guess I will take it.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by FireBeyond »

rkk3 wrote: post #6
tylermauthe wrote: post #2

Legitimate question: why do people find this interesting and/or why is it relevant to the trial?

Because her defense is "her boyfriend made her do it" and this is allegedly a schedule he made for her.

The biggest challenge I have with this (because intimate partner abuse/violence is a real thing and shouldn't be lessened) is that even accounting for their secrecy, the relationship didn't develop until well after Theranos was on a path, and Holmes is claiming sexual harassment from Day 1 (or earlier, when it was "just an idea").

Who thinks repeatedly sexually harassing _your boss_, who can terminate your employment, is a move that's going to earn you career success??

There's also a lot of other evidence to say that she was quite comfortable with how things went in their relationship and at work.

Similarly, through all the buildup to where we're at now, not once was this floated, until trial. Holmes was a believer, still touting that we have her and Theranos all wrong, are all luddite naysayers. Day 1 of the trial? "Actually, Sunny made me do it all".

Let's not get into the sociopathic narcissism (and other apt phrases) that comes with "I just got the trial calendar for my federal court case that could see me get 20 years in jail. Oh look, in the midst of all that, I got pregnant with a due date that is just before the trial is set to wrap up". Yes, people fall in love, accidents happen, but my thoughts in this scenario have "have a kid" pretty damn far down the list of my priorities (that being said, the aforementioned narcissism and denial could genuinely have her believing "there's no way in hell anyone finds me guilty").

Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by FireBeyond »

version_five wrote: post #7
tylermauthe wrote: post #2

Legitimate question: why do people find this interesting and/or why is it relevant to the trial?

Yes I agree, whatever you think of her, this (sharing here notes on social media) is basically just mean gossip.

Err, she and her counsel are the ones who entered this into the _public record_ specifically to (attempt to) exonerate her.

There's very little "mean gossip" about it.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by rkk3 »

FireBeyond wrote: post #64
rkk3 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because her defense is "her boyfriend made her do it" and this is allegedly a schedule he made for her.

The biggest challenge I have with this (because intimate partner abuse/violence is a real thing and shouldn't be lessened) is that even accounting for their secrecy, the relationship didn't develop until well after Theranos was on a path, and Holmes is claiming sexual harassment from Day 1 (or earlier, when it was "just an idea"). Who thinks repeatedly sexually harassing _your boss_, who can terminate your employment…

> the relationship didn't develop until well after Theranos was on a path

It was news to me, literally, but apparently their "romantic" relationship goes back to 2002/2003.

But in general I am quite skeptical of Holmes.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by version_five »

FireBeyond wrote: post #65
version_five wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I agree, whatever you think of her, this (sharing here notes on social media) is basically just mean gossip.

Err, she and her counsel are the ones who entered this into the _public record_ specifically to (attempt to) exonerate her. There's very little "mean gossip" about it.

Do you think it's being shared and discussed here because it exonerates her?

Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by winter_squirrel »

VHRanger wrote: post #53
echlebek wrote: post #36

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Maybe it sounds fine to you, but to me, a night owl, it sounds absolutely insane. I would go insane if I had to do this and I don't know if I would ever recover.

It *is* insane to wake up at 4am if you go to bed anytime after 10PM. I know some people will swear before god that they can function on little sleep, but the fact is that your decision making and judgement is seriously hampered by maintaining a long term sleep deficit.

I agree, way to many "self improvement" people will try to wake up early without defining a rigid deadline to go to sleep by. If so, it ends up being unsustainable.

I've found that I naturally get very tired by 8:30-9pm and so it works well for my schedule (and then even if I go to bed later, theirs so much leeway between 4am and the time I actually need to start working (7-8am) that I can afford to not put an alarm and always just let my body get it's natural amount of sleep even if it means getting up closer to 5 or 6 once in a while).

Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by FireBeyond »

rkk3 wrote: post #66
FireBeyond wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest challenge I have with this (because intimate partner abuse/violence is a real thing and shouldn't be lessened) is that even accounting for their secrecy, the relationship didn't develop until well after Theranos was on a path, and Holmes is claiming sexual harassment from Day 1 (or earlier, when it was "just an idea"). Who thinks repeatedly sexually harassing _your boss_, who can terminate your employment…

> the relationship didn't develop until well after Theranos was on a path It was news to me, literally, but apparently their "romantic" relationship goes back to 2002/2003. But in general I am quite skeptical of Holmes.

Which I could entirely believe, despite all this.

Sunny met her when he was 38 and she was in high school, heading to Stanford in 2003. So above and beyond "secret relationship with the boss", I could also see "not wanting to be seen as grooming/a groomed high school student" as a reason to keep things on the downlow.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes' Daily Schedule

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Post by mdoms »

khazhoux wrote: post #57

The single most important task for a CEO at a large company is to publicize their daily schedule, describing how they rise at either 5am or 6am (Holmes goes a step further), and then work out and take care of a large amount of business before the rest of the common people even wake up. Bonus points for preparing and having breakfast with your small children after your workout and morning email/decision-making routine…

It is so funny to me when people on this website absolutely refuse to believe that some people really do like to rise early and get things done in the morning.

I almost certainly get lots of stuff done before you get out of bed. You probably get more done than I do in the evening. I don't know why so many of you get bent out of shape about the former but not the latter.

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