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Re: T-Mobile CDMA network shutting down soon

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I have this nasty feeling my 3G prepaid phone is going to stop working one day, and I'll somehow be expected to have known in advance. Can I get a 5g non-smart phone? I don't want internet, email, or anything other that text messages and phone calls. I'm already too attached to the internet, I DON'T want it in my pocket at all times.

Not 5G AFAIK, but nokia produces a range of 4G non smartphones.

Re: T-Mobile CDMA network shutting down soon

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post #56

An interesting side effect of these networks shutting down seems to be a lot of car manufacturers have been cheeping out for years and relying on 2G and 3G networks on even quite modern cars, then blaming the network providers when they stop working after being the network is shut off instead of offering upgrades to the telecommunications modules to a more modern standard.

Who will pay to upgrade their cars, and why?

I know tractors have the same problem, but farmers are paying because they can log into each tractor and make decisions. Things like a field isn't yielding great so they can stop for lunch before getting the next load off...

I personally don't see drivers upgrading their car, but maybe I'm wrong.

Re: T-Mobile CDMA network shutting down soon

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post #56

An interesting side effect of these networks shutting down seems to be a lot of car manufacturers have been cheeping out for years and relying on 2G and 3G networks on even quite modern cars, then blaming the network providers when they stop working after being the network is shut off instead of offering upgrades to the telecommunications modules to a more modern standard.

The newest car I've ever owned was a 2005 model, so at the risk of sounding ridiculous: Why do cars have cellular radios built-in? Just for the GPS, or for actual communication?

Re: T-Mobile CDMA network shutting down soon

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Not surprising - Boost Mobile's primary market is poor folks generally and especially inner city minorities.

"Getting a new phone" or "getting a fancy newly released phone" is less viable financially for this market so they are going to lag on abandoning older standards like CDMA because they are sticking to cheap phones in their budget.

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't really go into how it's legal, but the situation around VoLTE has been difficult. It hasn't just been every phone working perfectly. Beyond that, it's possible to buy a phone that sort-of works. For example, let's say that you're an AT&T customer and AT&T has 700MHz, 850MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz, and 2300MHz spectrum. You buy some foreign phone that supports 1900MHz. Great, now you're running a device that w…

Is it really so hard for them to spend 30 seconds explaining this to users? It's not exactly rocket science, right? They could literally send a text when they notice a new incompatible device like this appearing on a line (and maybe periodically, like once every year or something): "Hi, this is a free SMS from AT&T. We noticed you're trying to use a Galaxy A32 phone on our network. Unfortunately this phone doesn't su…

Because if it were that clear, people would not use them or stick with them, or would get upset and complain to regulators. Market monopoly through obfuscation and inertia.

Re: T-Mobile CDMA network shutting down soon

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post #56

An interesting side effect of these networks shutting down seems to be a lot of car manufacturers have been cheeping out for years and relying on 2G and 3G networks on even quite modern cars, then blaming the network providers when they stop working after being the network is shut off instead of offering upgrades to the telecommunications modules to a more modern standard.

Seems like a net positive to me that a generation of cars can’t be as easily tracked by the government.

Re: T-Mobile CDMA network shutting down soon

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post #56

An interesting side effect of these networks shutting down seems to be a lot of car manufacturers have been cheeping out for years and relying on 2G and 3G networks on even quite modern cars, then blaming the network providers when they stop working after being the network is shut off instead of offering upgrades to the telecommunications modules to a more modern standard.

The newest car I've ever owned was a 2005 model, so at the risk of sounding ridiculous: Why do cars have cellular radios built-in? Just for the GPS, or for actual communication?

OnStar (GM vehicles), Acura Link, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnStar#Digital

https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/acuralink-3g-disco...

Re: T-Mobile CDMA network shutting down soon

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really so hard for them to spend 30 seconds explaining this to users? It's not exactly rocket science, right? They could literally send a text when they notice a new incompatible device like this appearing on a line (and maybe periodically, like once every year or something): "Hi, this is a free SMS from AT&T. We noticed you're trying to use a Galaxy A32 phone on our network. Unfortunately this phone doesn't su…

Perhaps because it's not easy to do so? Now you have to have a database of a million phones from Shenzhen that you need to keep track of whether it has your bands. Who's gonna pay for their QA and know what phone manufacturers are doing what with their phones?

A cell tower can't interrogate a handset for a list of supported bands?

Re: T-Mobile CDMA network shutting down soon

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post #56

An interesting side effect of these networks shutting down seems to be a lot of car manufacturers have been cheeping out for years and relying on 2G and 3G networks on even quite modern cars, then blaming the network providers when they stop working after being the network is shut off instead of offering upgrades to the telecommunications modules to a more modern standard.

The newest car I've ever owned was a 2005 model, so at the risk of sounding ridiculous: Why do cars have cellular radios built-in? Just for the GPS, or for actual communication?

Telematics & remote interaction. Want to get remote diagnostics/problem notifications on your car, have emergency 911 service in the event of a crash, be able to unlock it from your phone, preheat it in the winter, precool it in the summer, get notified when your 16-year old child is driving over 70mph, get software updates for the ECUs in your car, enable remote charging notification & management, etc.? Cellular.

Note that the HN crowd is extremely outside the mainstream in its collective view on these kinds of features. The actual mass market for cars embraces most of these even though HN tends to vilify attempts to add connected tech to vehicles.

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