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Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by pm90 »

freewilly1040 wrote: post #54
jd115 wrote: post #18

While this is a trend across the board since the pandemic, for Facebook it is particularly troublesome because it's deeper rooted than at other companies. On an almost daily basis it is becoming more and more public knowledge that Facebook is in more legal trouble than it can handle and that the company no longer has much good standing in society (which, for a "social" media company, is a bit of a problem). Young peo…

They’ve certainly faced an onslaught from the press, which has decided they are Philip Morris 2.0. It’s very unclear if that is going to translate into actual legal trouble. If I was at FB I’d be more concerned with how young people are rejecting it.

Facebook presents an existential threat to the business of most traditional news media and they have a platform that actively promotes misinformation. The Press is doing their job: finding out what goes on inside Facebook and reporting on it. As someone not really involved either way, the responses of Facebook to legitimate questions has been entirely unsatisfactory and justifies the negative coverage they’ve received.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by varjag »

lordnacho wrote: post #32

I would guess people evaluate their job on money/work/stink axes. All of FAANG pays well, so what's left is whether the work is interesting/important/fulfilling and whether the company has integrity/evil issues. Eg you might think F1 has interesting problems despite glorifying fossil fuel cars, or you might think drones are technically challenging despite being used to kill people. Loads of people become nurses and t…

I assume they genuinely struggle with recruiting. Getting cold recruiting mails from FB lately despite being on the wrong continent. They must be scraping the bottom.

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Post by pedrosorio »

civilized wrote: post #19
fullshark wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The metaverse bet you shrug off but adding emoji reactions impresses you? Google is in “accumulate capital to deploy the next technological shift” mode, Facebook is trying to make that shift a reality (Waymo excepted).

Google keeps a large suite of in-house built, enormously useful products alive and still manages to move them forward incrementally. FB has done nothing useful for me since I signed up in 2004. Given that, why would I care if they made a video about the incredible things they will do in the future? If I'm to believe they will deliver, shouldn't they have a track record by now? And Google has led in AI for the past de…

> FB has done nothing useful for me since I signed up in 2004. Given that, why would I care if they made a video about the incredible things they will do in the future?

Have you used a few VR devices over the last decade, including the last Quest?

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by achenatx »

civilized wrote: post #19
fullshark wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The metaverse bet you shrug off but adding emoji reactions impresses you? Google is in “accumulate capital to deploy the next technological shift” mode, Facebook is trying to make that shift a reality (Waymo excepted).

Google keeps a large suite of in-house built, enormously useful products alive and still manages to move them forward incrementally. FB has done nothing useful for me since I signed up in 2004. Given that, why would I care if they made a video about the incredible things they will do in the future? If I'm to believe they will deliver, shouldn't they have a track record by now? And Google has led in AI for the past de…

facebook groups and marketplace are huge. Marketplace will be the craigslist killer if they can fix their scammer problems.

Groups compete well with reddit.

As they build a 'metaverse' groups, marketplace, and walls can form the foundation

you wall is your own personal space. Your groups and the marketplace become places that you go to.

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

treyfitty wrote: post #51
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #45

I have to wonder if job satisfaction at Facebook has a very binomial distribution. This is pretty much true at any large corp, where there can be a ton of variation between teams, but from the outside looking in it seems that Facebook basically has a dichotomy: On one hand you have teams working on interesting and industry-leading tech, like React, GraphQL, Oculus, etc. But on the other you have legions of people wor…

I think you mean bimodal. Binomial is something else completely

Lol, thanks, Sunday morning brain fart.

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by chris_wot »

woodruffw wrote: post #42
gfosco wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. I also worked at Facebook for 7.5 years first, and witnessed this performative cancer growing in real-time.

I’m not any particular fan of Facebook, but to run with the cancer analogy: normally a cancer consumes and destroys its host. To the best of my knowledge, Facebook’s market valuation has basically only gone up for the last decade. The only (and very recent) bumps for then have been privacy related, which are closer to the core business than to any diversity initiatives they might have. So where, exactly, is the cance…

Still killing its host.

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Post by paulryanrogers »

azangru wrote: post #37
tenpies wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Facebook is in more legal trouble than it can handle and that the company no longer has much good standing in society (which, for a "social" media company, is a bit of a problem). Is it? I've always liked the perspective that Facebook's product, to governments, beyond mass surveillance, is societal stability (or lack there of). If there's one company that could almost single-handedly cause an actual insurrection in…

> If there's one company that could almost single-handedly cause an actual insurrection in the United States, it's Facebook Why not Twitter?

Twitter doesn't seem to have the market penetration. It's public by default permission also creates a different dynamic

Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say

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Post by 0x0nyandesu »

varjag wrote: post #63
lordnacho wrote: post #32

I would guess people evaluate their job on money/work/stink axes. All of FAANG pays well, so what's left is whether the work is interesting/important/fulfilling and whether the company has integrity/evil issues. Eg you might think F1 has interesting problems despite glorifying fossil fuel cars, or you might think drones are technically challenging despite being used to kill people. Loads of people become nurses and t…

I assume they genuinely struggle with recruiting. Getting cold recruiting mails from FB lately despite being on the wrong continent. They must be scraping the bottom.

The biggest thing turning me off when they email is that to work for Facebook you MUST have a Facebook account. I deleted mine years ago.
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