University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days • Hacker News Board

Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by ianleeclark » Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 9:42 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #58

ianleeclark wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> alt-right? Would that not be pretty neo-nazi and white supremacy esque? I don't really want to engage in the shit-slinging that this thread will inevitably turn into/has turned into, but: alt-right, by many accounts, is a response of neo-reactionary thought and neo-reactionary writers were a common part of online silicon-valley-adjacent communities. It's not just tiki torches. > I do get tired of low-key culture wa…

Please don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Unless you were talking about anything after my first paragraph, I'm literally just quoting wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment#Relation_to...

Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by tmh88j » Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 10:08 PM UTC

rkk3 wrote: post #55

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that's the usual ideals of universities. The difference is that usually it comes along with not being allowed to make extremely hateful or racist or sexist comments. There's a certain part of american society that has lost their ability to see this distinction and thinks that they should be able to attack other people, say they are not legitimate humans. They think, wrongly in my view, that they aren't free if t…

Do you find the Yale Trap House email [1] "extremely hateful or racist"? What about physicist Dorian Abbot's views on Affirmative action? 1. https://freebeacon.com/campus/a-yale-law-student-sent-a-ligh...

I find their definition of "trap house" to be entertaining.

>Once associated with inner city crack dens, "trap house" has also become generic slang for any place where young people can score beer.

Seems like they pulled that from urban dictionary [1] and changed a few words to make it more "professional".

> Originally used to describe a crack house in a shady neighborhood, the word has since been abused by high school students who like to pretend they're cool by drinking their mom's beer together and saying they're part of a "traphouse".

1. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=traphouse

Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by UncleMeat » Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 10:20 PM UTC

poulsbohemian wrote: post #49

“…committed to ideological diversity and academic freedom.” I mean… isn’t that a way to describe the charter of many universities? It’s practically a definition of the tenure model. Perhaps they are arguing that’s been lost in many universities, to which I would question why they believe a new university is a) the answer to the question and b) likely to somehow do any better. Smacks of someone who simply has a differ…

It doesn't just smack of it. It is nakedly obvious. The selling point is that it is a conservative-focused institution. Yes, college professors tend to vote blue. But the traditional university is going to be far more ideologically diverse than this place.

Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by UncleMeat » Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 10:22 PM UTC

seneca wrote: post #33

kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #18

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> Seems like right-wing speech will be the most free there. It's insane to me that "we won't mandate ideological orthodoxy" is some how a right-wing idea.

It isn't a right wing idea. Instead, it is plainly obvious what a university that says this actually means.

Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by dang » Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 10:24 PM UTC

ianleeclark wrote: post #61

dang wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Unless you were talking about anything after my first paragraph, I'm literally just quoting wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment#Relation_to...

The comment was obviously fodder for ideological battle, regardless of what it was quoting from Wikipedia.

Can you please not post like that? It has destructive effects on the threads: it evokes worse from others, makes discussion quality significantly lower, takes threads into the direction of the same few generic black hole topics over and over again, has nothing to offer curiosity (which is supposed to be the guiding value of this site), and so on.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by UncleMeat » Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 10:39 PM UTC

tmh88j wrote: post #4

>“I had one Texas mom email me who said she was crying at the possible opportunity for her children, and a very successful businessman who said, ‘my children may now have a place to go to school.” Not a single university in the world is acceptable for their families? Are they looking for an education or a club to join?

A lot of people have been fooled into believing that traditional universities are places that brainwash their children to become marxists. These people are then unwilling to send their children to these institutions and instead seek out places like Liberty that market themselves as alternatives. Liberty bills itself as explicitly conservative. This one markets itself as focusing on "free speech", but that means something very clear to the target audience.

Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by coolso » Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 10:54 PM UTC

poulsbohemian wrote: post #49

“…committed to ideological diversity and academic freedom.” I mean… isn’t that a way to describe the charter of many universities? It’s practically a definition of the tenure model. Perhaps they are arguing that’s been lost in many universities, to which I would question why they believe a new university is a) the answer to the question and b) likely to somehow do any better. Smacks of someone who simply has a differ…

> Smacks of someone who simply has a different perspective on diversity and freedom rather than a goal of increasing it.

One only needs to look at the comment sections - if they even still exist - of various websites to notice that by nature of the perspective being different, it usually does inherently increase it.

Say what you want about conservatives, and they may get angry and offended just as anyone else, but they do enjoy engaging in debate. But its an an open “secret” that the opposite end of the spectrum is much more eager to silence and ban opposition, both directly, and indirectly through the invention of new and use of existing words and phrases to character-assassinate even when the shoe doesn’t actually fit. You know, like “domestic terrorist” for parents who dare want to have a say in what the schools they pay taxes for teach their own children.

I regularly post in NYT comment sections, and over half of my comments - which I make sure to keep as civil as is reasonably possible - are not approved, while extremely incendiary comments in line with the NYT’s bias are in full abundance.

They can’t prove you wrong if you don’t let them speak.

Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 10:58 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #65

ianleeclark wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you were talking about anything after my first paragraph, I'm literally just quoting wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment#Relation_to...

The comment was obviously fodder for ideological battle, regardless of what it was quoting from Wikipedia. Can you please not post like that? It has destructive effects on the threads: it evokes worse from others, makes discussion quality significantly lower, takes threads into the direction of the same few generic black hole topics over and over again, has nothing to offer curiosity (which is supposed to be the guid…

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Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by CheezeIt » Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 11:31 PM UTC

UncleMeat wrote: post #63

poulsbohemian wrote: post #49

“…committed to ideological diversity and academic freedom.” I mean… isn’t that a way to describe the charter of many universities? It’s practically a definition of the tenure model. Perhaps they are arguing that’s been lost in many universities, to which I would question why they believe a new university is a) the answer to the question and b) likely to somehow do any better. Smacks of someone who simply has a differ…

It doesn't just smack of it. It is nakedly obvious. The selling point is that it is a conservative-focused institution. Yes, college professors tend to vote blue. But the traditional university is going to be far more ideologically diverse than this place.

It isn’t conservative at all, it’s a bunch of liberals.

Re: University of Austin Draws over 3k Employment Inquiries in Four Days

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Post by UncleMeat » Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 12:14 AM UTC

CheezeIt wrote: post #69

UncleMeat wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't just smack of it. It is nakedly obvious. The selling point is that it is a conservative-focused institution. Yes, college professors tend to vote blue. But the traditional university is going to be far more ideologically diverse than this place.

It isn’t conservative at all, it’s a bunch of liberals.

The marketing is "classical liberal." But I'd put money on it having a very specific sort of ideology once it gets started.