Making the dislike count private across YouTube • Hacker News Board

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by adamc » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:57 PM UTC

wubbert wrote: post #32

butler14 wrote: post #9

This isn’t about small content creators. It’s almost certainly about big brands (advertisers) that hate it when their high budget movie/game/trailer/whatever gets publicly downvoted.

Just like when Netflix removed their star ratings with a only a thumbs up.

A small part of why I stopped using Netflix... it became harder to assess what I wanted to watch.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by gfosco » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:58 PM UTC

butler14 wrote: post #9

This isn’t about small content creators. It’s almost certainly about big brands (advertisers) that hate it when their high budget movie/game/trailer/whatever gets publicly downvoted.

Politics, too. The White House has been on the receiving end of quite a showing of popularity lately.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by AtNightWeCode » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:59 PM UTC

So funny that a lot people still tries to pass down votes or dislikes as something essential. It is already more or less proven that it does not work the way it is sold in many contexts.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:59 PM UTC

klipklop wrote: post #16

Odd that a certain political party got a large amount of downvotes on all their videos and YouTube removes the publics ability to see them soon after.

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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by HappyMans » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

muglug wrote: post #43

The overwhelming sentiment to the decision here is negative, but I don't quite understand that reaction. If YouTube was just looking out for big brands and/or advertisers, they could have restricted the change incredibly simply. By making it a global change they're saying "ok now we understand how our UI actually led to some pretty bad outcomes in ways we failed to anticipate, and we're fixing that".

It’s because they aren’t objectively bad outcomes. For the content creators it may be bad. But if the content creator is creating, say, authoritarian propaganda, the outcome for the audience is good when the dislike count goes through the roof and helps spread the message that whatever has been published is being rejected by the audience.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by dongcarl » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

A moment of silence for "Neutral Response", which, after 12 years and 10M views has still maintained a 50/50 like-to-dislike ratio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by nickjj » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great.

I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the video was posted on a place out of my control and folks didn't like that. Almost always if a video naturally gets downvoted it's because you either released something bad or unrelated to what your channel normally expects.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by varelse » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 6:02 PM UTC

Sounds like a call to duty to hit the dislike button if even slightly inclined to do so going forward.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by LarrySellers » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 6:02 PM UTC

klipklop wrote: post #16

Odd that a certain political party got a large amount of downvotes on all their videos and YouTube removes the publics ability to see them soon after.

Except they considered the change years before Biden was president: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-a...

This Trump rally from The Hill, where he tells his followers to get the vaccine that he got, garnered 1.5k likes and 1.3k dislikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huQdxDnQkac

Here Trump hints at a 2024 run on the Today show, but it has more likes than dislikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7MWvwTOzw

Here a Fox affiliate covers a recent Trump rally, but it has 10 times more likes vs dislikes! Didn't anyone tell them about the grand Youtube conspiracy?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi4niom7se8

Does that fit your narrative or no?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by bko » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 6:02 PM UTC

butler14 wrote: post #9

This isn’t about small content creators. It’s almost certainly about big brands (advertisers) that hate it when their high budget movie/game/trailer/whatever gets publicly downvoted.

Whitehouse youtube also had an embarrassing number of dislikes.

Dislike is incredibly useful to the user. Seeing a high dislike count on video (with some exceptions) indicates a video is likely not what it purports to be.