You want me to pay to join the toxic cesspool?
I'd find it funny to pay and be cancelled off the toxic cesspool
Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ
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#62You want me to pay to join the toxic cesspool?
Yes, you're very cool.
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#63As someone who was an initial skeptic when this was first announced, I really appreciate what twitter is trying to do with Blue, especially around direct payments to publishers. Any step to get the internet off of the ad-based data-harvesting revenue model is ultimately better for almost all parties.
Why would I pay publishers?
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#64The Washington Post, L.A. Times, USA TODAY, The Atlantic, Reuters, The Daily Beast, Rolling Stone, BuzzFeed, Insider and The Hollywood Reporter. Seems like a good way to push a ideological/political agenda, too.
their TA primarily uses Twitter
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#65As someone who was an initial skeptic when this was first announced, I really appreciate what twitter is trying to do with Blue, especially around direct payments to publishers. Any step to get the internet off of the ad-based data-harvesting revenue model is ultimately better for almost all parties.
But, it's not direct payment to publishers. It's indirect via twitter. You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions. Publishers angling for retweets to get nickels from twitter's algorithm is anathema to professional journalism. This is mostly my hot take just based on the press release, but color me dubious. Local news is struggling nationwide and this doesn't feel like a solution. It feels like s…
disagree with this point. I rather have more objective ads driven journalism than subscription "professional journalism". subscription are even more biased and create further silos for mis/information.
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#66Before anyone else wastes their money on this: it doesn't make Twitter ad-free.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who said the data-harvesting would stop?
You're right, it probably won't, at least not while it's still printing money for all the corporate entities involved. But it's my understanding that most of the data-harvesting tools in use today were originally created to enhance ad-targeting and drive up CPM. At the very least we can hope products like Blue might put a dent in this incentive structure.
> At the very least we can hope products like Blue might put a dent in this incentive structure.
I wonder if Twitter Blue customers will be omitted from the data stream that Twitter is selling to corporations and governments?
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#68As someone who was an initial skeptic when this was first announced, I really appreciate what twitter is trying to do with Blue, especially around direct payments to publishers. Any step to get the internet off of the ad-based data-harvesting revenue model is ultimately better for almost all parties.
Unfortunately, I suspect $2.99 per month isn't sufficient to make these publishers whole with what they would have earned from the same users. Only a small fraction of twitter users will sign up, and the overlap with the kind of users likely to spend money on advertisers products will be big. I suspect this is true at nearly any price point. Even if it cost $50 per month, the tiny fraction of users who did sign up wo…
I think it depends on what kind of product Twitter Blue would become. Getting all the publishers in one app, and getting “news reading experience” designed right, may attract users who were not paying anything to publishers before.
I just wonder if getting into channel business, instead of building more open of a platform where publishers control the prices themselves, was the right move for Twitter. Time will tell.
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#69You want me to pay to join the toxic cesspool?
I have been an elite troll since the original doom deathmatch days. I have a true skillset in the arts. Twitter Blue is going to require some serious passive trolling but I have just taken the challenge. If I get banned after paying then I'll be the one that is foaming at the mouth with rage!
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#70This seems eerily similar to what people feared could happen to the web in the absence of net neutrality, only with the role of the ISP this time replaced by a platform content referrer. A multi-tiered web: premium lanes for corporate sponsors with money changing hands. > "On iOS and desktop, Twitter Blue members will enjoy a fast-loading, ad-free reading experience when they visit many of their favorite news sites a…
How is this any different from any other sort of bundling done by Apple news or Google news? You're free to obtain a subscription to any of those media companies personally and simply follow the link without Twitter Blue. Most people likely aren't going to want to manage multiple subscriptions and will instead opt to not read the article. At least with Twitter Blue the user doesn't have to worry about multiple subscr…
Yeah my first thought re: news/scroll was that it sounds exactly like Apple News.