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Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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Post by mrandish » Mon, Nov 08, 2021, 1:13 AM UTC

p_j_w wrote: post #48

mrandish wrote: post #46

N=1 but... I was severely overweight for decades and went to a very low carb diet to lose weight. It worked. I lost a hundred pounds in 7 months and have stayed steady at my ideal weight now for over three years. A very low carb diet also dramatically reduces HFCF as well as most highly processed foods and it definitely had a dramatic effect improving my emotional and mental state too, even though I wasn't expecting…

>I lost a hundred pounds in 7 months Am I right to assume you were working pretty closely with your doctor on this?

Yes, although at the time (> 3 yrs ago), my doctor did not approve of my very low carb (keto) approach as it was based on relatively new research that had come out in recent years. This was primarily because she simply wasn't familiar with it and it wasn't part of the HMO's recommended treatments for obesity.

I proceeded anyway and kept her updated. After she saw my remarkable results, she became much more interested in VLC approaches, although she still doesn't recommend them for most of her patients because she feels the dramatic shift and rigor required to be successful are beyond most people's ability to stick with for more than a few months.

I agree that some people find maintaining VLC long-term is too demanding. Although it hasn't been difficult for me to maintain, I may not be like most people.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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Post by sleepysysadmin » Mon, Nov 08, 2021, 1:09 PM UTC

robmerki wrote: post #4

Anecdotal, but I recently started a no-sugar diet just to see what would happen, and I saw an immediate improvement in my mood. I wake up feeling excited about my day instead of groggy. I also get less tired in the evenings after work. It's not perfect, but there's a clear difference. I'm not going back. Also, it made me realize how much sugar/HFCS/etc. is in everything. I have a feeling the next few decades of resea…

>I have a feeling the next few decades of research will make us realize how horrible our diets are.

That data is in already. We know it's terrible but how do you change? Sugar is tremendously addictive. If you quit pop and other super sugary things, you'll end up compensating and eating more sugar in a different way.

Even if you do a really good job and only allow sugar through say dairy. Which has lesser sugar and different kind. You'll end up eating cheese all day long.

Worse yet, we have had propaganda from the governments pushing pro-sugar anti-fat diets on us for longer than ive been alive.

Even worse yet, we only have about 40 years left of regular agriculture. http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2015/ph240/verso2/

If our intention is to keep the current diet going... we're going to need vertical factory farming or something.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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Post by MisterBastahrd » Mon, Nov 08, 2021, 4:39 PM UTC

robmerki wrote: post #8

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #6

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I didn't have much of a change in energy or mood, but my allergy issues showed an immediate improvement.

Out of curiosity - how long (days/weeks) did it take you to notice your allergy improvements?

Well, I was diagnosed with childhood asthma and I spend the average day with some sort of allergy that affects my sinuses and lungs. But after a few weeks, the allergy symptoms I had were much less severe. My headaches went away entirely.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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Post by p_j_w » Mon, Nov 08, 2021, 11:14 PM UTC

mrandish wrote: post #61

p_j_w wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I lost a hundred pounds in 7 months Am I right to assume you were working pretty closely with your doctor on this?

Yes, although at the time (> 3 yrs ago), my doctor did not approve of my very low carb (keto) approach as it was based on relatively new research that had come out in recent years. This was primarily because she simply wasn't familiar with it and it wasn't part of the HMO's recommended treatments for obesity. I proceeded anyway and kept her updated. After she saw my remarkable results, she became much more interested…

That's nice to hear. Did you have regular blood work done? I'm only asking as I'm undergoing a bit of a shift in my own diet lately and am keenly interested in other peoples' experiences. Such drastic weight loss isn't in the cards for me, but it's interesting to hear about.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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Post by mrandish » Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 3:02 AM UTC

p_j_w wrote: post #64

mrandish wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, although at the time (> 3 yrs ago), my doctor did not approve of my very low carb (keto) approach as it was based on relatively new research that had come out in recent years. This was primarily because she simply wasn't familiar with it and it wasn't part of the HMO's recommended treatments for obesity. I proceeded anyway and kept her updated. After she saw my remarkable results, she became much more interested…

That's nice to hear. Did you have regular blood work done? I'm only asking as I'm undergoing a bit of a shift in my own diet lately and am keenly interested in other peoples' experiences. Such drastic weight loss isn't in the cards for me, but it's interesting to hear about.

I did have blood work done fairly regularly as I was shedding weight so quickly. When I started I was on a variety of medications related to issues caused by my long-term obesity. The dramatic loss of body mass had dual impact both in reducing the dosages needed and in reducing (and eventually eliminating) the underlying health issue (e.g. T2D, high blood pressure, statins, etc).