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Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
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Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#62> We need to weigh the positive use cases for facial recognition against growing societal concerns, especially as regulators have yet to provide clear rules. Disclaimer: I have never owned an Apple product, and I haven't used Facebook for roughly a decade. Apple have been doing face recognition for a while now, arguably at a similar scale, but their use case is pretty straightforward. With FB face recognition is not…
Where does apple do it? They do it in iPhoto but it is based on what you tell it, and is opt out. Where else?
I only know about FaceID.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#63So sad that we can't have nice things. I like the feature that automatically tags people in pictures. Sometimes I have trouble remembering people's names (not face blindness or similar, just regular trouble I guess). I would love to have smart glasses that show the name of someone I've met before but don't quite remember. But alas, our society being what it is people will abuse facial recognition, so I can't have tha…
The question is are you ok with some stranger adding a picture of you on facebook and then facebook promptly tags you on their profile.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#64A legitimate question I’ve always had when we read such announcements is how can we be certain they’re actually doing whatever they’re claiming / planning to do. Unlike software /OS modifications, it’s not feasible to somehow reverse engineer FB’s backend and find out if anything unusual is happening. At least without any attempt of compromising it. Considering how powerful these orgs are, with low probability of fac…
The same way that you verify that the local chicken plant is properly following contamination prevention procedures. You don’t, at least not personally. We as a society rely on government based regulations and knowledgeable inspectors to verify these things. I’d say software should be no different in these regards. (Though that isn’t currently the case.)
Reminds me of the drone photographers that were flying over pig farms in the south that were egregiously breaking laws. Instead of fixing the pig farms, they went after the photographers.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#65It's always confusing to see what the internet police go after. Total scams ripping thousands to hundreds of thousands off from people (tech support scams etc). Crickets. An opt in feature on the facebook platform that is useful (at least to some). Multiple Attorney General press conferences :)
But their facial recognition is not opt-in. You cannot prevent other people from uploading photos of you then tagging your face in them, training Facebook's facial recognition to your face even if you consciously never upload your image a single time.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#66It's always confusing to see what the internet police go after. Total scams ripping thousands to hundreds of thousands off from people (tech support scams etc). Crickets. An opt in feature on the facebook platform that is useful (at least to some). Multiple Attorney General press conferences :)
The negative impact of facial recognition technology is much bigger than the impact of scams.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#67Slightly off-topic but I deleted my Instagram yesterday. I was really holding out for one person who almost refuses to talk to me on any non-FB property but...oh well. I'm glad to be rid of it, but I can't shake that it's somewhat meaningless and I'll miss the many content creators I followed who have earned my business. I wonder if there's some way to follow them in a way not tied to my identity.
There are several Facebook and Twitter proxies; perhaps there's an Instagram proxy with an RSS feed?
What do you mean by FB/Twitter proxies? Is it what it sounds like, service to access FB/Twitter in some kind of anonymous mode? And could you name a few?
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#68Here's where Facebook's brand reputation sits in my mind today: I do not believe them at all. I do not believe they've had some change of heart regarding "many concerns about the place of facial recognition technology in society." I do not believe they intend to not use this technology in some other privacy-invading way. Trying to figure out their real angle here. Avoid regulation? "Good" PR at a time when they despe…
The system no longer provides FB the same value it previously did. So they're taking it down, now that they've collected billions of images. Will they be deleting the trained models too? All artifacts and inferences? Hell no.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where does apple do it? They do it in iPhoto but it is based on what you tell it, and is opt out. Where else?
I only know about FaceID.
Unlike Facebook's facial recognition, other people can't enroll you into Apple's Face ID without your consent or knowledge.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#70Here's where Facebook's brand reputation sits in my mind today: I do not believe them at all. I do not believe they've had some change of heart regarding "many concerns about the place of facial recognition technology in society." I do not believe they intend to not use this technology in some other privacy-invading way. Trying to figure out their real angle here. Avoid regulation? "Good" PR at a time when they despe…
> Trying to figure out their real angle here.
Maybe that most phone cameras are now good enough to enable iris scanning, which is orders of magnitude more accurate.