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Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by causi » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:17 PM UTC

shams93 wrote: post #34

causi wrote: post #3

At first I was a little annoyed, but then I had to smile at just how emblematic of Generation X the article really is. Screwed over by their parents, depressed, substance-addicted, and hopeless, but not one single hint of any effort or plan to change things. Generation X is the generation of ennui at the ruination of the world. Millenials and Gen Z might just be pissed off enough to do something about it.

We tried to change things I faced down 15 cops with loaded shotguns to protest Gulf War 1. I'm not depressed or substance addicted and I started doing web development in 1995 and continue to work as an a self taught engineer even though I'm pushing 50.

I faced down 15 cops with loaded shotguns to protest Gulf War 1

Why? Opposition to war in general? As wars go, the Gulf War was pretty close to ideal. One country invades another, invaded country requests help, US expels invader, US goes home. I wish every other US war was as clean.

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by spywaregorilla » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:22 PM UTC

nineplay wrote: post #60

spywaregorilla wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not the majority. But I do wonder, are they even the plurality if you normalize to electoral college votes? I suspect yes, but possibly not.

Between them, gen Z, and the mostly left-leaning Gen Xers, they could throw the Republican party out if they all showed up to vote. "If". This isn't a new problem, the young people never show up to vote. They are given a million messages that they can't make a difference, that they shouldn't bother. They should wonder who is sending those messages.

I live in MA. MA is solidly blue. My vote in the presidential election is meaningless. It cannot possibly make a difference.

What do you say to me?

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by panzagl » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:25 PM UTC

taneq wrote: post #26

mmstgshj wrote: post #7

I'm Gen X and I'm sick of this bullshit. Generations aren't a monolith and this schmuck doesn't speak for me.

I don't even know what the fuck generation I am, when I was a kid they called me Gen X but then I got retconned to Gen Y and now who knows. When I started highschool mobile phones and the internet weren't a thing and when I started university they were ubiquitous, that should date me closely enough.

I'm GenX (b. early 70's), my parents were/are Boomers (b. 1949/50), but somehow Millennials' parents are Boomers too. Families changing caused a lot of this- my parents stayed married, had kids early, Mom stayed home, parents paid for undergrad, retired early but simply. The Millennial upbringing seems to be kids late, Mom worked, kids left with student loans while parents have second homes and travel and new partners. I suppose if my parents had been less focused on family and participated in the party/disco side of the 70's, I'd have been a millennial too.

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by nineplay » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:28 PM UTC

spywaregorilla wrote: post #62

nineplay wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Between them, gen Z, and the mostly left-leaning Gen Xers, they could throw the Republican party out if they all showed up to vote. "If". This isn't a new problem, the young people never show up to vote. They are given a million messages that they can't make a difference, that they shouldn't bother. They should wonder who is sending those messages.

I live in MA. MA is solidly blue. My vote in the presidential election is meaningless. It cannot possibly make a difference. What do you say to me?

A lot of people's votes in the presidential election are meaningless.

However those whose votes are meaningful don't know it.

Let's say that if do you vote, you are 99.999% sure your vote is meaningless. If you don't vote, you'll be 100% sure. That .001% is a larger difference than it might seem.

What's stopping you?

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by panzagl » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:31 PM UTC

h2odragon wrote: post #57

panzagl wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "Me Generation" are Boomers. GenX was playing with it's Micronauts and Star Wars figures when all of that happened.

I wasn't updated on the terminology change, apparently. How unfair to "boomers" to be lumped in with the most coddled and swaddled and useless children to ever inherit the earth.

It is kind of a weird half-generation- it seemed people my age were always running into the after-effect of the kids 5 years older. Things like 'the campus is dry now, but it wasn't 4 years ago' or 'there used to be this awesome event but it ended 2 years ago when a girl was drugged and raped'. They got sex drugs and rock 'n' roll, we got AIDS, 'no means no', 'Say no to drugs', MADD, and Rick Astley.

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by p_j_w » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:38 PM UTC

SuoDuanDao wrote: post #51

phone8675309 wrote: post #6

I’m a GenXer and this article is a whiney rant from Peter Pan Syndrome sufferers who never grew up.

I've had a couple Gen X'er friends tell me the generation is collectively stuck in the past. Are there any plausible theories why that might be? Was it a lack of meaning in the general narrative that made growing old too painful for many to face or something?

>I've had a couple Gen X'er friends tell me the generation is collectively stuck in the past. Are there any plausible theories why that might be?

Isn't this true of most generations? It seems like a pretty universal human attribute from what I can tell, at least to some degree. Is the idea that it's a stronger pull in Gen X?

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by BbzzbB » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:43 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #56

BbzzbB wrote: post #27

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That put way too much intent over people's actions IMO. Who the hell are these aristocrats orchestrating multi-generational psy-ops? Do they meet over brunch to plan it? Not every theory has to be explained by conspiracies. I don't know if Strauss-Howe's theory is accurate, but it seems to me (a layman) completely defensible thru plain psychology, sociology and observation, a defensible "natural evolution/patterns of…

> Who the hell are these aristocrats orchestrating multi-generational psy-ops? The capitalist class. > Do they meet over brunch to plan it? Sometimes. Sometimes dinner. Sometimes drinks. Sometimes, at meetings of the global institutions they and their paid agents run. Not, like, in one unified, organized group, just a disproportionately powerful class, with many members aggressively pursuing their own self-interest,…

All things considered they're not too bad if their goal when fabricating bad times is so that the next generation gets stronger. I would be solely focused on my self-interest if I was a Machiavellian oligarch.

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by drumhead » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:46 PM UTC

h2odragon wrote: post #57

panzagl wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "Me Generation" are Boomers. GenX was playing with it's Micronauts and Star Wars figures when all of that happened.

I wasn't updated on the terminology change, apparently. How unfair to "boomers" to be lumped in with the most coddled and swaddled and useless children to ever inherit the earth.

Boomers are 1945 to 1965, X is 1965 - 1980.

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by disambiguation » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

phone8675309 wrote: post #11

BbzzbB wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CC this theory : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generatio...

Strong people bring good times Good times breed weak people Weak people bring bad times Bad times breed strong people So it goes

dont forget the terminal path:

weak people with WMDs bring end times!

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by spywaregorilla » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 4:53 PM UTC

nineplay wrote: post #64

spywaregorilla wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in MA. MA is solidly blue. My vote in the presidential election is meaningless. It cannot possibly make a difference. What do you say to me?

A lot of people's votes in the presidential election are meaningless. However those whose votes are meaningful don't know it. Let's say that if do you vote, you are 99.999% sure your vote is meaningless. If you don't vote, you'll be 100% sure. That .001% is a larger difference than it might seem. What's stopping you?

> However those whose votes are meaningful don't know it.

Sure they do. They live in Minnesota, Wisconson, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Nebraka's weird second district, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, Maine's weird second district, Georgia, Ohio, Iowa, Texas, Montana, South Carolina, Alaska, or Missouri; give or take a few.

> Let's say that if do you vote, you are 99.999% sure your vote is meaningless. If you don't vote, you'll be 100% sure. That .001% is a larger difference than it might seem.

> What's stopping you?

Do you use the same logic for the lottery? Because I'd reckon you have better odds of winning the powerball than the odds of massachusetts turning red.

Your 0.001% chance is made up and too large.