A cautionary tale from the streets of San Francisco

Post by Gibbon1 » Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 2:00 AM UTC

emerged wrote: post #8

DoreenMichele wrote: post #3

("in San Francisco") From 2005 to 2020 the estimated number of unsheltered homeless people nearly doubled, even as homelessness declined nationwide. One possible explanation: California has become the dumping ground for the nation's homeless population. We have a nationwide shortage of housing. Both in person and online, I continue to hear homeless people plan to move someplace relatively warm and dry while stuck on…

Anyone who wonders how SF keeps sliding further into dystopia, this is why. Because every negative consequence of their politics gets blamed on some other.

Post by edderly » Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 2:03 AM UTC

opinion-is-bad wrote: post #43

edderly wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who came up with the hypothesis that California is the dumping ground for the nation's homeless? I'd like to know if it stands up to scrutiny. California itself has a population which is the size of a medium sized European country. It is large enough to have a sizable homeless population. If you are homeless are your chances of getting food and services better in the central valley or in SF? Also, are there significa…

CA has 1/2 the population of homeless in the US but only 1/8 of total population. The eastern seaboard has close to half the US population but obviously cannot have nearly the same rate of homeless. Something is at play, though it need not be anything too complicated. Good weather and significant resources dedicated to making the homeless comfortable make California the obvious destination. There are possibly network…

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 2:06 AM UTC

edderly wrote: post #63

opinion-is-bad wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CA has 1/2 the population of homeless in the US but only 1/8 of total population. The eastern seaboard has close to half the US population but obviously cannot have nearly the same rate of homeless. Something is at play, though it need not be anything too complicated. Good weather and significant resources dedicated to making the homeless comfortable make California the obvious destination. There are possibly network…

Thank you, is there a link where I could cite that information?

Post by mgummelt » Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 2:07 AM UTC

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #56

no_butterscotch wrote: post #39

The book's author was recently on Joe Rogan where they discussed the book and many of the policies in SF. They discussed: de-criminalization, the "Portugal approach", progressive policies, policing, etc. Also the use of language such as "homeless camps" which envisages a camp of homeless people just trying to live. Versus the reality which when social workers and mayors (mayor of Denver) went into these camps underco…

So what should we do? Locking everyone up seems like it would be even more expensive with even worse long-term results.

Post by etc-hosts » Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 2:08 AM UTC

no_butterscotch wrote: post #39

The book's author was recently on Joe Rogan where they discussed the book and many of the policies in SF. They discussed: de-criminalization, the "Portugal approach", progressive policies, policing, etc. Also the use of language such as "homeless camps" which envisages a camp of homeless people just trying to live. Versus the reality which when social workers and mayors (mayor of Denver) went into these camps underco…