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People who “drink to cope” can make their symptoms worse: study

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Re: People who “drink to cope” can make their symptoms worse: study

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Each beer is like 300 to 400 calories. And then you eat bar food when you're drunk which is not known as the worlds healthiest.

What on god's-green-earth kind of beers are these? A pint is usually between 200/250 - strong beer (10%) usually hit's in the 350 range - but are you really saying that's normal at a bar?

https://www.menshealth.com/uk/weight-loss/a744496/drink-beer...

Re: People who “drink to cope” can make their symptoms worse: study

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I'm not sure why the UK has been on the drink-bashing train over the last few years, but why not address the "eating junk food to cope" issue first. IMO it's much more prolific in the western world (increasingly in the developing world) & is a much much much newer ailment than drinking. "drink to cope" - yes we've been doing this for the last 4k years.

From my personal experience in my social circle, I agree. It's a tougher problem too than drinking, because food is everywhere.

You have to eat something, but you don't have to drink. I've seen it described as: Imagine telling alcoholics to keep it under control, while still making them have 2-3 drinks a day!

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Part of drinking to cope is dulling the internal self critical monologue. For someone who drinks to cope this includes blocking out the very thought that they ARE drinking to cope. If you are then asked to explicitly think about the choice to drink and how that makes you feel then I would expect exactly the results that the researchers in this study got. "Whenever a participant reported having had an alcoholic drink.…

Procrastination is about managing your emotions effectively.

I imagine anxiety is somewhat related when you get outside of fight or flight.

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Ignoring whether the actual study this article is based on is good or not, there are reasons why chronic drinking of alcohol could worsen symptoms for someone with anxiety and depression. Alcohol will cause you to urinate a lot of magnesium and other electrolytes and can cause deficiencies. Magnesium deficiency is strongly associated with mental health disorders. It will also impair your sleep. This is a double whamm…

Alcohol and not eating properly caused my deepest darkest depressions.

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I've been able to quit all the substances I used to cope; cigarettes, marijuana, alcohol, after a rather depressing realization that in fact none of them made me feel better in the long run. Short term gains at the cost of long term financial physical and mental health. The model I use to think of it is that drugs steal life energy from your future and give it to you in the present. That's the devil's deal you're giv…

> The model I use to think of it is that drugs steal life energy from your future and give it to you in the present.

I know this might sound naive but I don’t have firsthand experience: is that also valid for marijuana? What are the long term effects in that case?

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I've been able to quit all the substances I used to cope; cigarettes, marijuana, alcohol, after a rather depressing realization that in fact none of them made me feel better in the long run. Short term gains at the cost of long term financial physical and mental health. The model I use to think of it is that drugs steal life energy from your future and give it to you in the present. That's the devil's deal you're giv…

> The model I use to think of it is that drugs steal life energy from your future and give it to you in the present. I know this might sound naive but I don’t have firsthand experience: is that also valid for marijuana? What are the long term effects in that case?

Hazy memories that are lost forever and causing my now lifelong general anxiety was the result of 10+ years of smoking marijuana.

YMMV, my 20s are lost to time, and I guess I needed to get to the stage where inhaling it was playing a panic attack russian roulette to finally get serious about quitting that awful herb. It definitely was fun the first few years.

But sure, there's someone bound to tell me there was something wrong with me, and that for them marijuana was a panacea. To be fair, I did not respect it, but neither do the stoners nowadays who think THC and CBD are a miracle cure for any problem and that it's perfectly, 100% safe.

Re: People who “drink to cope” can make their symptoms worse: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my personal experience in my social circle, I agree. It's a tougher problem too than drinking, because food is everywhere.

You have to eat something, but you don't have to drink. I've seen it described as: Imagine telling alcoholics to keep it under control, while still making them have 2-3 drinks a day!

That's a good depiction of how diabolical this addiction is. I'm happy I don't have it, but I recognize this in others.

I wish I could help them. I've tried. And while I studied psychology, I'm not a psychotherapist.

Re: People who “drink to cope” can make their symptoms worse: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The model I use to think of it is that drugs steal life energy from your future and give it to you in the present. I know this might sound naive but I don’t have firsthand experience: is that also valid for marijuana? What are the long term effects in that case?

Hazy memories that are lost forever and causing my now lifelong general anxiety was the result of 10+ years of smoking marijuana. YMMV, my 20s are lost to time, and I guess I needed to get to the stage where inhaling it was playing a panic attack russian roulette to finally get serious about quitting that awful herb. It definitely was fun the first few years. But sure, there's someone bound to tell me there was somet…

n=1 but I thought myself computer science while skipping high school and smoking copious amounts of said "awful herb" and I'm convinced I would of never chased that dream sober. I also have fond and clear memories of said period.
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