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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by alexmcc81 »

marcellus23 wrote: post #26
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

> exact matches

Not exact matches. Hashes. Hashes that were quickly show to have collisions that the company brushed off.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by notyourday »

Google fails at even building an ecommerce website for the special launch event. In 2021. For a launch of a major "premium product".

Why on earth would one ever believe the rest of the product which is orders of magnitude more complicated would actually function and not suck in 4 months?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#63

Post by vdfs »

mellosouls wrote: post #28

Before rushing in to purchase, note that in some regions, you can claim back a pair of Bose 700 after purchase of the Pixel (at no extra cost)... eg: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB

In many regions you can't even see this page

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#65

Post by marcellus23 »

flutas wrote: post #46
marcellus23 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

> their intent is to scan cloud photos corrected: their intent is to scan all photos in your photo library, on your device, including images automatically pulled in from from various sources such as messages, if you have iCloud Photo enabled.

> images automatically pulled in from from various sources such as messages

As far as I am aware, this is false and there is no mechanism on iOS by which images are "automatically pulled into" the photo library from anywhere, Messages or otherwise. Do you have a source or an example of how that could happen?

(edit: people are mentioning Whatsapp, which I guess has an option to auto-save received photos. Fair enough, but that's a third-party app and requires you to enable photos access anyway, so it's pretty clearly not what the parent meant).

> their intent is to scan all photos in your photo library, on your device ... if you have iCloud photos enabled

Yes, that's what I said. Enabling iCloud photos uploads your photo library to the cloud, so it's scanning your cloud photos.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#66

Post by mda »

dreamer7 wrote: post #37

One interesting thing to note is how much more high-budget Hollywood style Apple's event feels in comparison to Google's event. Having watched the two events on successive days, some things stand out - Apple throws numbers repeatedly at you through out the presentation and you end up remembering quite a few useless statistics (55.7 billion transitors in M1 Max) Apple makes a much bigger deal about each device with lo…

"The weirdest thing in the Google presentation is that several sections had presenters talking to a different camera than facing the screen. That just felt very strange."

The camera director is probably living in a different decade, these side shots were used a lot 20 years ago, and it was still annoying then.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#67

Post by taylorlapeyre »

DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

>> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device

You do realize that Google also scans your images for CP, and furthermore that Google's current business model is literally surveillance advertisement, right?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#68

Post by causi »

crumpled wrote: post #58
causi wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My bad. "Are they still denying us basic functionality that's been part of smartphone USB ports since MHL in 2011 for the express purpose of making us buy crap we don't want?"

You're the only person I've heard of using HDMI out of their cell phone USB port. So, I can definitely see a vendor deciding not to provide it and not pay a license for that technology on every handset they sell.

Implementing DisplayPort is free. The royalty fee for HDMI is five cents per device.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#69

Post by psychometry »

alexmcc81 wrote: post #61
marcellus23 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

> exact matches Not exact matches. Hashes. Hashes that were quickly show to have collisions that the company brushed off.

Thus the manual review. No one's going to be going to prison over a hash collision here.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by 0des »

firstSpeaker wrote: post #50
dreamer7 wrote: post #37

One interesting thing to note is how much more high-budget Hollywood style Apple's event feels in comparison to Google's event. Having watched the two events on successive days, some things stand out - Apple throws numbers repeatedly at you through out the presentation and you end up remembering quite a few useless statistics (55.7 billion transitors in M1 Max) Apple makes a much bigger deal about each device with lo…

>The weirdest thing in the Google presentation is that several sections had presenters talking to a different camera than facing the screen. That just felt very strange. Not sure if that is reassuring or a sign of carelessness or a very well planned stunt.

This is a common technique used in film when someone is reading from a teleprompter. It is meant to draw attention away from the speaker's eyes moving from side to side.
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