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Re: Pop OS – System76

#61
I really love the company and use Pop OS. The only thing I would really love for them to do is focus on ZFS out of box experience.

Having the default encryption go Native ZFS encryption would be really great.

Re: Pop OS – System76

#62
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If you're interested in the tiling features of Pop OS, they're also available as a standalone extension for GNOME Shell. Very little friction to test them out (if you're already running GNOME). https://github.com/pop-os/shell https://support.system76.com/articles/pop-shell/

I just want to open all windows floating and being able to manually snap windows in to a 3 columns grid, can this do it?

I don't believe so

Re: Pop OS – System76

#63

I have tried installing Pop!_OS 21.04 on 2 distinct models of computers - it would fail silently (the installation process sort of ends suspiciously quickly, then it won't boot) so I had to use Ubuntu instead (it still installs and boots without any problems). Pop!_OS 20.10 worked fine.

What sort of error did you see, if any? I had a similar issue, but a wiping the disk and setting up partitions again fixed it.

Re: Pop OS – System76

#64
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ive been wondering. if a new user is switching from windows, don't you think something like kde neon would have "less friction" UX wise ? i somewhat understand the appeal of pop os but gnome is wildly different from windows and i have seen people turn off.

From my experience, people who want to try linux is yearning for somewhat different UI, but not too different from familiar win/macos UI. Pop OS hits the sweet spot imo, refreshing but comfortable enough while usability is still there.

gnome is literally macOS with a few changes though

Re: Pop OS – System76

#65
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Have you tried switching to Wayland?

How can people be having this kind of conversation while also claiming this is the state of the art or the gold standard in 2021? I've been running macos since 2012 and never had such issues. That's over 10 years ago. Of course, OS X is older than that, and as far as I can tell, it never had such issues.

I've been running macos since 2012 and never had such issues.

Only if you install it on a very short list of approved hardware. Try to install OS X on a random Dell laptop and you will have far greater challenges than what most Linux distros will give you.

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Installed it on a Dell XPS13 recently. It's great except I have to restart GNOME every couple hours because of of annoying visual glitch that makes all text disappear.

Given that you're on an XPS you likely know this: is the touch screen support & UX as good as on Windows?

ThinkPad x380 user: I've had the best touch experience with GNOME 34/Fedora so far - three finger pinch/swipe to change desktops, pinch to zoom in Firefox, sane scrolling in most apps, and GNOME dashboard is touch friendly if you ever need to open apps. Maybe the jankiest part is rotation but I just try not to do that :D

Re: Pop OS – System76

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I've used them both pretty extensively as well as Red Hat based distros. For me there's a few minor, but important enough to make me stay on pop, differences: 1. It uses systemd-boot as the boot loader. I like not having a grub menu, just turn on my computer and I'm basically on the login screen. It's seamless. 2. Flathub enabled out of the box. I find Flatpaks the best experience for lots of common apps like Slack,…

I really apologize, but this answer only made me even more confused: 1. I don't get the grub menu on any of my Ubuntu machines (except for the one I use to test stuff where many distros co-exist); I "just turn on my computer and I'm basically on the login screen. It's seamless." 2. Same. But with Snap. (I know that many people here don't like snaps for many reasons, and I do too, sometimes. But experience-wise, they'…

Installing Nvidia drivers is easy if you know what you're doing.

For the last year I installed both Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and 21.04. Both times I had to opt out of installing proprietary drivers during installation to avoid getting a system freeze. Then, on first boot, I would open a new session before I even log in and install updates and nvidia drivers from there. Any attempts of using the GUI to install them would result to freezing. With Pop I never had to go through these loops, I just installed the Nvidia ISO and I was good to go.

I also get grub menu on startup with Ubuntu. It's like 3 or 5 seconds long but it's there, and I use EFI. But it's not a deal-breaker.

Re: Pop OS – System76

#68

Pop is my new favorite. I started using it at the urging of friends, and love it. I've written a couple reviews of it on my blog, as it's been my "daily driver" for my laptop for nearly a year. I've been a Linux user since 1995/96, and a die hard Arch user for about 10 years. So why would I want a Linux distro that's super hands-off and easy to use? It's incredibly stable. "Set it and forget it". If I want a bleeding…

Any good reasons to select Pop over Ubuntu?

Re: Pop OS – System76

#69
post #68

Pop is my new favorite. I started using it at the urging of friends, and love it. I've written a couple reviews of it on my blog, as it's been my "daily driver" for my laptop for nearly a year. I've been a Linux user since 1995/96, and a die hard Arch user for about 10 years. So why would I want a Linux distro that's super hands-off and easy to use? It's incredibly stable. "Set it and forget it". If I want a bleeding…

Any good reasons to select Pop over Ubuntu?

Nvidia out of the box.

Re: Pop OS – System76

#70

A bit of a sidenote: PopOS came installed on my system76 laptop. But that's not important here. What intrigues me more is that the laptop had terrible battery life. And I mean terrible by even 2010 standards. And I bought it in 2018. It would last less than an hour on average, and less than 40 minutes if I was doing something demanding. I use past term "had" as although I am still using this laptop today, somehow aft…

I have the same problem. Last time I researched system76, there were at least some models based on the same Clevo laptops as the one I have. I get 2 hours of battery life on these laptops.

They have dedicated nvidia GPUs. Due to the poor state of proprietary nvidia drivers, there's no hybrid graphics support. The kernel can't turn the dedicated GPU off and switch to integrated graphics. So it just stays on at all times and those things consume a lot of power. I actually measure the power draw constantly using the nvidia management library and it's very interesting to see all kinds of random software suddenly trigger massive power usage spikes. The hardware-accelerated kitty terminal is a major offender. Turning off the GPU in the firmware settings extended battery life to about 6-7 hours.

Maybe system76 worked some kind of miracle here and got hybrid graphics working? That would be amazing.

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