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Re: L0phtCrack Is Now Open Source

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No. They seem to have been doing a few puff PR pieces recently. Can’t imagine anyone under 30 knows or cares about them. I guess their main claim to fame was being the first “hacker” group to do PR moderately well and transition into decent careers. Not really even an interesting footnote in history.

Human, I'm 28, been in InfoSec for ~10 years. Granted, I was lucky enough to be interested in and peruse this as a professional branch when I graduated college in 2016. I am also an adjunct professor at my local university, where I make it a salient point to remind my students of the history of hacking. We talk about this still. I also start every semester off with the opening scene of Hackers - the best hacking movi…

> I also start every semester off with the opening scene of Hackers - the best hacking movie ever made :)

Great soundtrack. Respect.

Re: L0phtCrack Is Now Open Source

#62

Back in like 1998 or 1999 I used L0phtCrack to get the admin password to the PCs in the computer lab. Good times :)

Combine this with a IIS3 exploit and a ip scanner you coded for fun and you make that labs all around the world :)

Re: L0phtCrack Is Now Open Source

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_ _ ((___)) [ x x ] __________________________ \ / _ _/ Thanx DilDog!! \ (' ') \__________________________/ (U)

If yoU were a teenager at the right time, the L0pht, et al. were crUcial in nUdging the next decades of yoUr life. I'm sUre I'm not alone in having fond memories seeing this. :) PS: (2 decades since Boston madness!)

It all changed after the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) passed in 1986. Before that, there were no federal crimes against hacking. I don’t remember any state statutes, either, but there may have been some scattered around here and there. My state certainly did not have any or I’d have been in “juvi”.

Re: L0phtCrack Is Now Open Source

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If you care about the history of the scene you'll know the name regardless of your age.

Would you do a guy a favor and lay some links or at least breadcrumbs such that I might start learning my history? I'm picking up programming at a relatively advanced age (31) and don't have the time to do deep hunts for stuff like I did when I was in my 20s BUT I want to keep security right in mind as I write everything I make.

ahh..this is i feel going to be a controversial take, but it isnt said with malice.

the history of mudge and l0pht are more interesting than they are useful. if you want to get 202X security chops though, digging up the past isnt really the way. its more of a thing to do a deep dive into because youre interested, not because you expect anything out of it.

there are other researchers like gruqg who chronicle the exploits of old teams like l0pht and ACIDBITCHEZ under the guise of teaching the new wave about LOL hacking (living off the land), but i personally think they are doing it more for the reasons one writes a history book; cause its interesting.

if you want to learn LOL, read mandiant APT markers. thats how modern hacking is done, its really not at all like it used to be. i myself am happy to offer the following ocunterpoint though; the number one ranked hackerone bugbounty is dawgyg, an ex blackhat whose come in and dominated the bb scene in a huge way. i counter my counter point with the thousands of guys who make a solid living doing bug bounty who do not posess the old skills. they arent a requirement to make it in modern sec, because things are just different.

they were a bunch of badass cowboys who became the first to "make it". big boy jobs, wide spread respect in the community, inspiring a generation like egypt etc who went on to do metasploit work.

i am keen as a BEAN for grugqs book to come out, because to me, its fascinating, interesting and inspiring. mudge has been my personal hero since i found out about him when i was in highschool, but that was long after their reign was done and they were corporate.

i think the following anology works well too; lopht are comparable to van halen; when they both burst onto their scenes, almost noone else was doing what they did, and noone else before had gotten as big.

but time marches on, and other people do something new, and suddenly evh isnt as flashy as the new crop.

Re: L0phtCrack Is Now Open Source

#67

Ah yes, the trusty info site and code repository with no explanation of what the software does.

For many HN readers l0phtCrack is iconic, and so needs no introduction.

FYI though, it was a password brute force tool that many of us used for various (mostly innocent) myschevios purposes 15-20 years ago.

Re: L0phtCrack Is Now Open Source

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I used lophtcrack to get the windows admin password to the computer lab PCs in high school :)

Yep, and the password was 'driver'.

In my school's case it was 'passwd'. No cracking needed to obtain that one though, the admin had it written on a post-it on his monitor.

Re: L0phtCrack Is Now Open Source

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Human, I'm 28, been in InfoSec for ~10 years. Granted, I was lucky enough to be interested in and peruse this as a professional branch when I graduated college in 2016. I am also an adjunct professor at my local university, where I make it a salient point to remind my students of the history of hacking. We talk about this still. I also start every semester off with the opening scene of Hackers - the best hacking movi…

> I'm 28 ... adjunct professor ... We talk about this still. I'm a decade older, and am relieved to see this. > Hackers - the best hacking movie ever made :) Counterpoint: _Sneakers_: the thinking person's hacking movie.

I still vote for Wargames :-)

Re: L0phtCrack Is Now Open Source

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This is the reason: > at this point it is more a museum relic than anything practical

Were the records of payment a method to keep track of who might be using it?

Lol people paid for it? That was in the era of WinRAR and WinZip. There must be dozens of people that paid for those pieces of software
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