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Tether Fined $41M for Lying About Reserves

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Re: Tether Fined $41M for Lying About Reserves

#61
post #11

> there was never more than $61.5 million backing Tether, even as more 442 million coins were circulating at one point. Ah, pulling the classic "fractional reserve" I see.

Hah. At one point Tether was claiming, during the days where they were holding on to the "1:1 backing!" that they were banking $2 billion A WEEK. And yet the cryptofans were telling us we were curmudgeons for not buying into the hype (or in this case, the bullshit).

Some of us who like crypto also knew it was bullshit.

Re: Tether Fined $41M for Lying About Reserves

#63
post #11

> there was never more than $61.5 million backing Tether, even as more 442 million coins were circulating at one point. Ah, pulling the classic "fractional reserve" I see.

fiat debasing the currency. What I find ironic is that the crypto ecosystem still ended up with something like central banks, only in this case their mandate is make money for its owners, and they have no accountability or obligation to serve the general public.

decentralization is at best nothing more than a polite name for the transition period from one centralized regime to another.

like all mirages, it dissolves when you get too close.

Re: Tether Fined $41M for Lying About Reserves

#64
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is simply insolvency, not fractional reserve.

And yet, they're still operating. This is the kind of thing that makes me think the whole cryptocurrency ecosystem is a house of cards. Cryptocurrency advocates seem to be really bad at spotting and punishing incompetent and malicious actors in their markets.

It's hard to claim someone's specifically malicious / incompetent when the entire "market" is.

Re: Tether Fined $41M for Lying About Reserves

#65
post #11

> there was never more than $61.5 million backing Tether, even as more 442 million coins were circulating at one point. Ah, pulling the classic "fractional reserve" I see.

Depends what that means. Dollar reserve could be low because investment reserve is high. Would need to see the numbers.

Re: Tether Fined $41M for Lying About Reserves

#66
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the initial headline I thought that $41 million would be negligible compared to the central role they have in the crypto ecosystem. But apparently that fine is 2/3 of their backing reserves.

Correction: it is 2/3rds of what their reserves were back in 2017. The amount of Tether in circulation has increased over 150-fold since then, so presumably their reserves have increased as well.

> The amount of Tether in circulation has increased over 150-fold since then, so presumably their reserves have increased as well.

They just got punished for not having actual reserves match their circulation. What basis is there to presume that their reserve is matching their circulation now?

Re: Tether Fined $41M for Lying About Reserves

#67
post #28
post #11

> there was never more than $61.5 million backing Tether, even as more 442 million coins were circulating at one point. Ah, pulling the classic "fractional reserve" I see.

This is simply insolvency, not fractional reserve.

I think that would be illiquidity -- having only assets that need to be converted, rather than dollars themselves -- rather than insolvency, right?

Re: Tether Fined $41M for Lying About Reserves

#68
post #11

> there was never more than $61.5 million backing Tether, even as more 442 million coins were circulating at one point. Ah, pulling the classic "fractional reserve" I see.

Hah. At one point Tether was claiming, during the days where they were holding on to the "1:1 backing!" that they were banking $2 billion A WEEK. And yet the cryptofans were telling us we were curmudgeons for not buying into the hype (or in this case, the bullshit).

There has always been a healthy amount of skepticism about Tether in the crypto community. Your cryptofans narrative does not accurately reflect reality.

Re: Tether Fined $41M for Lying About Reserves

#70
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more surprised that anyone still holds Tether, unless they're stuck with it. The company has been caught in lies several times before, it's not as if a $41M fine will turn them honest.

Lending rates for USDT on the major decentralized lending platforms are more favorable than other stablecoins.

Really? I've been using compound.finance, and it fluctuates, heavily -- sometimes a lot less than USDC, sometimes a lot more.

Edit: More details in my other comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28882422

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