No Antifa? Why, of course not. What's a few dead people and billions of dollars in damage between friends.
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#62Huh. There's a lot bands in the "Hate" section. Looking up the various names I'm finding various death metal and black metal bands. I can't help but wonder how many of those bands on are on that list because someone at Facebook took heavy metal imagery and lyrical themes too seriously and literally. More Edit: Turns out I picked a bad example. I missed reference to a name collision with an actual National Socialist b…
There's an entire microgenre of ‘national socialist black metal’.
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#64They have Ted Kaczynski on that list despite the fact that he's in prison for the rest of his life, and that he wouldn't use Facebook even if he was out. Is his presence on this list an indicator that Facebook is paying more attention to users/groups that talk about him a lot or share his ideals?
They have Adolf Hitler on the list, he is dead as far as I know unless Facebook as confirm the conspiracy that he never died?
Everyone missing the bleeding obvious: keywords for their moderation bots, if post contains keyword, flag it for manual moderation, or even downrank it so it doesn't show up that often in news feeds.
Although with how much the MAGA-crowd evokes the name of Hitler/Nazis to compare the current administration with it, maybe not...
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#65hm... Half of the Organizations in the "Hate: category seem to be based in Germany. Almost all of the Organizations in the "Terror" category seem to be Islamic. In the category "Crime" Brazil is overly represented. There seem to be a shocking amount of "Armed Militia Groups". I was surprised to find that "A.K. Chesterton" is affiliated with the "British Union of Fascists" ?? Is that correct? I seemed to be confusing…
Likely matches what the respective countries or organizations there put pressure on Facebook for, or which pose a legal problem for Facebook there. E.g. lots of German neonazi stuff in the hate category.
Nazism is illegal in Germany. Militias are constitutionally protected in the USA, so there's not really a legal argument for all of those to be included.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Long dead Hitler and Goebbels are included too, but why stop there? Where's Joseph Stalin and Vlad the Impaler. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21083819/pages/facebo...
And don't get me started on the Romans. After the Romans captured Carthage they murdered 450,000 of its inhabitants. This makes Caesar's Place in Las Vegas very culturally problematic.
And how about the indigenous Inca & Maya people, nobody wants to see their human sacrifice culture celebrated on Facebook (Mel Gibson exposed the ugly truth in Apocalypto)
And the Spanish Inquisition, Bluebeard, Ivan The Terrible, Robespierre, Lenin, Beelzebub and Donald J. Trump?
The ban list is way too short.
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#67Is there a stated goal for this list? There's around 1k names in the list but over 400k homicides worldwide every year. I assume there's lots more hate and misc. crimes every year, so what's the usefulness of having only 1k users flagged?
I’m guessing at least part of the goal is OFAC compliance but this list seems to go far beyond OFAC sanctions.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Likely matches what the respective countries or organizations there put pressure on Facebook for, or which pose a legal problem for Facebook there. E.g. lots of German neonazi stuff in the hate category.
Nazism is illegal in Germany. Militias are constitutionally protected in the USA, so there's not really a legal argument for all of those to be included.
you'll note that legal arguments are only one of the things I listed. (And as far as I understand, the situation around private militias is far less legally obvious than you state it, and I don't think any of the militias of the states is listed)
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#69Where are the left wing insurrectionist groups that terrorized Seattle and Portland last year? In Seattle they seceded from the US and shot six people with fully automatic weapons, in addition to thowing pipe bombs into occupied buildings. Edit: Is it okay when we do it?
"Seattle Antifascist Action" is on the list. What is the name of the missing group you're complaining about?
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#70Where are the left wing insurrectionist groups that terrorized Seattle and Portland last year? In Seattle they seceded from the US and shot six people with fully automatic weapons, in addition to thowing pipe bombs into occupied buildings. Edit: Is it okay when we do it?
"Seattle Antifascist Action" is on the list. What is the name of the missing group you're complaining about?
I did not see the PNW Youth Liberation Front and John Brown Gun Club (among others)