Norway to hit 100% electric vehicle sales by early next year

Post by 52-6F-62 » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 9:33 PM UTC

iddan wrote: post #25

thomasfl wrote: post #14

There's a huge price difference between electric cars and gas fueled cars here in Norway. Gas fueled car buyers have to pay both 25 percent VAT and an additional tax on purchase. Buyers don't have to pay neither of those taxes if they buy an electric car. The singer of the group A-ha, Morten Harket, bought an electrical car in 1989 and refused to pay road tolls and ignored all the subsequent fines. That got a lot of…

That is a a great way of using social impact for the environment. Celebs should really how can they actions like this

Post by robotresearcher » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 9:35 PM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #36

tannhaeuser wrote: post #2

Isn't that a strange thing, considering Norway is vast, has low population density especially in the north, and has own oil resources available?

They are also rich to the tune of $200k saved in the nations coffers for every citizen.

Post by ResearchCode » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 9:37 PM UTC

AustinDev wrote: post #16

dtech wrote: post #13

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At least they are using that money for citizens and green energy instead of Ferrari's of the royal family

Ferarris don't contribute at all to global warming relatively. The many Gulfstream's and 747's the wealthy own are actually statistically significant in terms of impact.

Post by bagacrap » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 9:38 PM UTC

bellyfullofbac wrote: post #15

tuatoru wrote: post #7

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Norway is wealthy thanks to selling fossil fuels. Norwegians feel guilty about that, but not guilty enough to stop selling them. This is essentially performative environmentalism from them. Still, it will help other countries by throwing up unforeseen problems in all-electric ground transportation, and some solutions.

I don't think it's a country of virtue signallers as you think, just people who like to get the best bang for their buck. And gas cars as well as fuel get taxed so much, that buying electric makes sense for them. Who would've thunk, economic incentives help!? Sadly in many other places the deciding economic incentives are the ones the politicians get from the oil and ICE car industry.

Post by robotresearcher » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 9:41 PM UTC

ajross wrote: post #56

andrenth wrote: post #11

Does anyone have a pointer to studies on the effects of electric vehicles in the used car market? I ask because the lifespan of current batteries seems to be around 8 years (going by manufacturers' warranties), and the battery pack amounts to approximately 30% of the price of the car. So people buying an used electric car will likely face a large maintenance cost after a while.

That's off. A typical new EV gets ~250 miles of real world range on a full charge and has a battery with very similar chemistry[1] to what you have in your phone. So over a putative 200k mile lifetime, it's going to see about 800 cycles (2e5/250) of battery usage. 800 cycles is about what a typical mobile phone sees in two years, after which most are seeing some moderate degradation (70% of new condition is fairly ty…