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Facebook’s attempt to smear the whistleblower

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Re: Facebook’s attempt to smear the whistleblower

#61
Okay, so Facebook has said she

- worked there for less than two years and had no direct reports

- never attended some sort of key meeting

- did not work on the subject matter in question

...and therefore, she lacks context which undermines some of her claims.

Which of those is a matter of character, or a "disgusting" attack? They might be wrong, or they might be right but bringing up irrelevancies, but the writer is acting like stating these is some sort of reprehensible smear.

Re: Facebook’s attempt to smear the whistleblower

#62
post #4

I'm sure what she's saying is only part of the evil that Facebook represents, but there's something fishy about the whole setup. Why is she getting full media coverage and support, when previous whistleblowers were roundly ignored? She's a very wealthy person (1B estimated), so perhaps she's fairly well insulated from any blowback? But again, why is now the time to pile on Facebook, and why this person? [edit] Hint:…

Here are some points I notice about this whole thing: - Facebook has stated (in the press release the article is reporting on) that they support regulation. This is typical for large market incumbents, who have been said to always support fixed-overhead regulation, because it hurts smaller competitors more than it hurts them. - Washington loves regulating things and can be safely assumed to be pro-policy in most case…

The Hacker News crowd doesn't like to hear this, but it's definitely looking like the case as each day passes. If everything we know about domestic surveillance and PRISM is true, the path of least resistance would be to ratify their control. I can hear a lot of "so whats" in the audience, but this would be unprecedented. The United States would now be able to advance their control over the global internet with total impunity, and the results... are harrowing to imagine.

Re: Facebook’s attempt to smear the whistleblower

#64
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no source because nobody under the C-level is worth anywhere close to that much.

She's one of the cofounders of Hinge, which was acquired by Match Group.

What are the chances Hinge made it to acquisition without giving shares to employees and investors?

Wiki says they nearly went bankrupt just before a funding round. Even Zuckerberg only owned 28% of Facebook at IPO.

Re: Facebook’s attempt to smear the whistleblower

#65

"If the best Facebook can come up with is this disgusting attempt at character assassination, Haugen is telling God’s own truth. We should listen to her." A pretty powerful closing statement IMHO.

> Facebook PR: “Today a Senate Commerce subcommittee held a hearing with a former product manager at Facebook who worked for the company for less than two years, had no direct reports, never attended a decision-point meeting with C-level executives — and testified more than six times to not working on the subject matter in question.” This doesn't sound like character assassination, it's Facebook claiming that she was…

Sounds to me this type of language can also backfire; next step of Congress could be to then subpoena someone who did work on the subject matter and did have C-level exec access...

Re: Facebook’s attempt to smear the whistleblower

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She's one of the cofounders of Hinge, which was acquired by Match Group.

What are the chances Hinge made it to acquisition without giving shares to employees and investors? Wiki says they nearly went bankrupt just before a funding round. Even Zuckerberg only owned 28% of Facebook at IPO.

Oh I'm not saying she has a billion. Odds are she is quite wealthy though.

Re: Facebook’s attempt to smear the whistleblower

#68
post #4

I'm sure what she's saying is only part of the evil that Facebook represents, but there's something fishy about the whole setup. Why is she getting full media coverage and support, when previous whistleblowers were roundly ignored? She's a very wealthy person (1B estimated), so perhaps she's fairly well insulated from any blowback? But again, why is now the time to pile on Facebook, and why this person? [edit] Hint:…

I'm paraphrasing a similar comment I made on a different thread, but this whole situation seems fishy to me... Out of the blue some larger-than-life person (with impeccable credentials, no less) comes out of the woodwork and is lauded with attention while the big news outlets make this massive push against Facebook, all while congress is holding hearings about regulating social media. Then a massive outage happens at…

> This woman is also remarkably calm, well-spoken, knowledgeable, and articulate for someone testifying before the Senate for the very first time - all while being broadcast around the globe, live on television.

But what if the reason she is being heared is because she is remarkably calm, well-spoken, knowledgeable and articulate? Should that theory not be tested first accoring to Occams razor? [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

Re: Facebook’s attempt to smear the whistleblower

#69
post #55

Has anyone got the documents themselves, or only reporter's descriptions of the documents?

My guess is they're using the same strategy as the Snowden leaks - drop a new bombshell at regular intervals through the media, then eventually open source the whole thing. The idea is the maximize the impact of the leaks, not to hide anything (of course, you can disagree about whether it actually does maximize the impact.)

This may be part of their plan, but Snowden used that method for the purpose of hiding things too. He wanted reports about the various software projects being used to be public, he didn't want the software itself to be public.

Vetting data over dumping everything often has benefits.

Re: Facebook’s attempt to smear the whistleblower

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post #4

I'm sure what she's saying is only part of the evil that Facebook represents, but there's something fishy about the whole setup. Why is she getting full media coverage and support, when previous whistleblowers were roundly ignored? She's a very wealthy person (1B estimated), so perhaps she's fairly well insulated from any blowback? But again, why is now the time to pile on Facebook, and why this person? [edit] Hint:…

What's your source on her wealth? I'm only finding second hand sources stating up to 5 million...

It's based on her co-founding Hinge, which apparently is now worth $2b. Hinge had sold 100% of shares by 2019, so she might have done well for herself, but definitely not 50% of current valuation.
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