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Re: Show HN: Open-source UK fuel availability tracker

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Post by bb123 »

danjac wrote: post #36
neilsense wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, yes, the NYT, for when you really want the truth...

The NYT does not have an axe to grind with Brexit, an issue for a foreign country. Even when it does have an axe to grind, it's default flex is "to both sides" an issue to the point of parody. Yet even the NYT can see the elephant in the room the UK media refuses to address. Don't trust the NYT? https://www.vox.com/22700343/uk-fuel-crisis-brexit-covid-19-... https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/28/business/brexit-fuel-foo…

The NYT is famous for having consistently hyperbolic negative coverage of things in the U.K.

Edit: sources for those who don’t believe me:

What’s the New York Times’s problem with Britain?

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-s-the-new-york-time...

The New York Times’ bizarre campaign against Britain

https://unherd.com/2020/01/what-has-the-new-york-times-got-a...

The New York Times is junk.

Re: Show HN: Open-source UK fuel availability tracker

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Post by illwrks »

For anyone else, my suggestion:

1. Open google maps

2. Turn on 'live traffic' congestion layer.

3. Identify your local petrol stations.

4. Find one with low congestion, avoid the ones with high congestion.

5. Click on the marker on google maps,

6. Check the 'busyness' indicator.

Observations:

If it's not busy and there's no congestion it's probably not got any fuel.

If it's as busy as usual or even a little bit more than normal, and congestion is not insane then head there.

If it's very congested avoid as it's probably being swarmed by social media promotion.

Re: Show HN: Open-source UK fuel availability tracker

#66

Post by meigwilym »

bb123 wrote: post #64
danjac wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NYT does not have an axe to grind with Brexit, an issue for a foreign country. Even when it does have an axe to grind, it's default flex is "to both sides" an issue to the point of parody. Yet even the NYT can see the elephant in the room the UK media refuses to address. Don't trust the NYT? https://www.vox.com/22700343/uk-fuel-crisis-brexit-covid-19-... https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/28/business/brexit-fuel-foo…

The NYT is famous for having consistently hyperbolic negative coverage of things in the U.K. Edit: sources for those who don’t believe me: What’s the New York Times’s problem with Britain? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-s-the-new-york-time... The New York Times’ bizarre campaign against Britain https://unherd.com/2020/01/what-has-the-new-york-times-got-a... The New York Times is junk.

Both of those have a right-leaning bias, The Spectator in particular. Do you have any other sources?

Re: Show HN: Open-source UK fuel availability tracker

#67

Post by n4r9 »

bb123 wrote: post #64
danjac wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NYT does not have an axe to grind with Brexit, an issue for a foreign country. Even when it does have an axe to grind, it's default flex is "to both sides" an issue to the point of parody. Yet even the NYT can see the elephant in the room the UK media refuses to address. Don't trust the NYT? https://www.vox.com/22700343/uk-fuel-crisis-brexit-covid-19-... https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/28/business/brexit-fuel-foo…

The NYT is famous for having consistently hyperbolic negative coverage of things in the U.K. Edit: sources for those who don’t believe me: What’s the New York Times’s problem with Britain? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-s-the-new-york-time... The New York Times’ bizarre campaign against Britain https://unherd.com/2020/01/what-has-the-new-york-times-got-a... The New York Times is junk.

For context, these are both right-leaning sources attacking the NYT for having negative coverage of right-leaning politics.

Re: Show HN: Open-source UK fuel availability tracker

#68

Post by Veen »

ashtonkem wrote: post #60
Veen wrote: post #56

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What do you expect me to say in response? You've stated that your opinion is the only realistic appraisal of the situation. That implies we don't merely disagree in our intepretation of events, but that you understand reality and I am deluded. We can't have a polite disagreement among equals because "reality" is on your side and not mine. Why would I bother to talk to someone who thinks like that?

One can have their own opinion on whether brexit should have happened, but it’s extremely hard to argue that the tories haven’t been handling this poorly.

Yes, one can certainly argue about whether they've handled the fuel shortage well. However, I'm not sure if anyone else would have handled it any better. One way to look at it is that they've left the ball where it should be: with the haulage firms who must now pay more for drivers. It's not really the government's job to ensure that private haulage and petrochemical firms have as much access to cheap labour as they would like. It was always going to be an uncomfortable adjustment to make.

Re: Show HN: Open-source UK fuel availability tracker

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Post by [deleted] »

Veen wrote: post #68
ashtonkem wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One can have their own opinion on whether brexit should have happened, but it’s extremely hard to argue that the tories haven’t been handling this poorly.

Yes, one can certainly argue about whether they've handled the fuel shortage well. However, I'm not sure if anyone else would have handled it any better. One way to look at it is that they've left the ball where it should be: with the haulage firms who must now pay more for drivers. It's not really the government's job to ensure that private haulage and petrochemical firms have as much access to cheap labour as they…

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