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Companies should probably pay $2k per person for open source (2017)

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Re: Companies should probably pay $2k per person for open source (2017)

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> At Gratipay, we believe that companies want to pay for open source, and will pay for open source if it’s easy enough—bureaucratically, technically, and socially. I think this is the right insight, but clicking around the links on their website I don't think they were executing on that insight particularly well. This looks more like it was a platform for individuals to make recurring donations than for companies to…

> I don't think they were executing on that insight particularly well.

Probably why they don't exist anymore.

Re: Companies should probably pay $2k per person for open source (2017)

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post #37

I can't tell what "Person" in the headline maps to. Like, for a non-tech company, is that every employee, every employee in the IT org, or every developer in the IT org?

IC engineer. That's the brightest line for comparison across companies (dim though it may be), as well as the primary role whose productivity is materially multiplied due to open source (i.e., imagine if the engineer had to build everything they get from open source).

Re: Companies should probably pay $2k per person for open source (2017)

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post #60

I think this is good will for sure, and 2k is a rounding error to the cost of most enterprise software, but the real problem with (most) FOSS is the lack of clear structure or organization in terms of payment. Not only who gets paid, but also how much to pay, how to quantity roles and work, spending if necessary, etc. That’s the real problem/opportunity for someone like Gratipay.

> 2k is a rounding error to the cost of most enterprise software 2k per engineer ... that's more than a rounding error. It'd be interesting to compare to per-seat licensing for commercial software. Anyone have examples?

It's not far off for a developer in the US. You figure they make somewhere from 80-150k in the median, X2 all-in cost as a rule of thumb for employment in the US, so 2k/dev is ~1% or "rounding error"

Re: Companies should probably pay $2k per person for open source (2017)

#66

> At Gratipay, we believe that companies want to pay for open source, and will pay for open source if it’s easy enough—bureaucratically, technically, and socially. I think this is the right insight, but clicking around the links on their website I don't think they were executing on that insight particularly well. This looks more like it was a platform for individuals to make recurring donations than for companies to…

There was a lot of pivoting going on near the end, unfortunately. The "companies pay" version of the site wasn't around for very long.

Re: Companies should probably pay $2k per person for open source (2017)

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2k is a rounding error to the cost of most enterprise software 2k per engineer ... that's more than a rounding error. It'd be interesting to compare to per-seat licensing for commercial software. Anyone have examples?

It's not far off for a developer in the US. You figure they make somewhere from 80-150k in the median, X2 all-in cost as a rule of thumb for employment in the US, so 2k/dev is ~1% or "rounding error"

Sure, but I'm saying compare it to something like Oracle (what other commercial software is still out there? I don't know). What does a company pay annually for Oracle (expressed per engineer for comparison)?

Re: Companies should probably pay $2k per person for open source (2017)

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post #66

> At Gratipay, we believe that companies want to pay for open source, and will pay for open source if it’s easy enough—bureaucratically, technically, and socially. I think this is the right insight, but clicking around the links on their website I don't think they were executing on that insight particularly well. This looks more like it was a platform for individuals to make recurring donations than for companies to…

There was a lot of pivoting going on near the end, unfortunately. The "companies pay" version of the site wasn't around for very long.

Thrashing, one might even call it. :)

Re: Companies should probably pay $2k per person for open source (2017)

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not far off for a developer in the US. You figure they make somewhere from 80-150k in the median, X2 all-in cost as a rule of thumb for employment in the US, so 2k/dev is ~1% or "rounding error"

Sure, but I'm saying compare it to something like Oracle (what other commercial software is still out there? I don't know). What does a company pay annually for Oracle (expressed per engineer for comparison)?

Okay this is really complicated. D:

https://wintelguy.com/oracle-db-licensing-calc.pl

https://www.orskl.com/what-is-the-cost-of-oracle-database-li...

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