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YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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It should be automatic.

Can't it be? Like at the router level, maybe?

The router has the issue of traffic and the path being encrypted. It does not see the paths that are browsed and so cannot backup or replace/URL with the new one?

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

> Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store all the video content we produce Definitely not. It's an addressing problem. I guarantee plenty of people have the youtube video downloaded with more redundancy than Google, and the OP even has the source files. The problem is that Youtube became the canonical URL for referencing the video, assuming singular power to control that address based o…

Ooh. Crazy, not at all thought through, probably bad, legislation idea popped in to my head:

EU Data Address Ownership Directive: All services that allow users to upload data that is then made publicly available, MUST have a method for the user to create a 301 redirect to another location where the content is available.

(Maybe allowing for a "Are you sure you want to follow the link to https://alternative.com and leave Youtube? We have no responsibility nor control for the content on alternative.com")

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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This is truly wrong. Far from censorship, this is a field test of memory-holing. Deleting a part of the history of the Internet (yes, this silly little nonsense video is now part of Modern Culture) is a Rubicon I'm shocked YouTube has the temerity to cross. I can't wait to see what more conventional history they'll delete. For now, note the conscious blowing-off, on YouTube's part, of all the re-uploads. Will they al…

Not just history of the internet: Youtube takes down videos of war crimes. Destroying or covering up evidence of war crimes is, itself, a war crime. I'm surprised that Youtube isn't in hot water over that. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170812/01102937985/once-... https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/youtube-ai-deletes-war-cr...

Isn't YouTube headquartered in one of those countries that officially consider foreign war crime tribunals directed at their citizens a reason to invade the responsible country?

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#64

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I also lost access to a most beautiful poetry recitation from an older fellow who has passed. In hindsight, I wish I was more active in saving videos.

It should be automatic.

I don't have enough disk space to archive every video I've every watched.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#66

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

> Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store all the video content we produce Definitely not. It's an addressing problem. I guarantee plenty of people have the youtube video downloaded with more redundancy than Google, and the OP even has the source files. The problem is that Youtube became the canonical URL for referencing the video, assuming singular power to control that address based o…

Maybe we need a new URI scheme and associated address resolution system for videos and other user generated content?

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#67

Youtube Alternatives : Centralized : Dailymotion, Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Vimeo, Vidlii, DLive, Triller Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube

There's also Gab TV and several others.

Unfortunately, I actually believe that the people behind the YouTube censorship actually benefited from their censorship and scattering of the community by producing an environment where antitrust actions are far harder to argue because YT can now claim there are many "competitors", which none of the alternatives really are.

It first dawned on me that this was possibly a tactic when Google was catching heat for manipulating results. I found it odd that DuckDuckGo was given the duck.com domain that Google owned, free of charge.

It makes no sense other than that Google was trying to support controlled opposition in order to claim that there was a competitive market.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Copyright law. Don't even need to prove you own your target video, just claim it and boom, you get what you want (redirect monetization to your MCM, takedown the video, etc).

That's not affecting Googs though, that's affecting users you have a beef with instead. The Googs seem to be impervious to any kryptonite.

I think that to risk a lawsuit over copyright infringement is an opening that could be interpreted as kryptonite, if I upload the Justice League movie to Youtube, Warner wouldn't hesitate to sic a lawyer to Google's offices demanding the takedown, not hurting you, but them.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

#69

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Headcanon accepted. The fae are notoriously afraid of iron, and harmed by merely touching it. What's the equivalent for Google?

>What's the equivalent for Google? The aurora borealis perhaps? The sun could decide to throw us a particularly nasty geomagnetic storm one day and suddenly Google would go to fearsome tyrant to basically irrelevant overnight. I imagine most of us on HN would be out of a job too!

Aurora Borealis? In this time of the year?

(can't wait for this one to get deleted...)

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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That's not affecting Googs though, that's affecting users you have a beef with instead. The Googs seem to be impervious to any kryptonite.

I think that to risk a lawsuit over copyright infringement is an opening that could be interpreted as kryptonite, if I upload the Justice League movie to Youtube, Warner wouldn't hesitate to sic a lawyer to Google's offices demanding the takedown, not hurting you, but them .

Please, if that actual scenario were to happen, Googs would just immediately comply with the take down and move on. Nothing would happen to Googs. They would then shut down your account, which is exactly what should happen. You're* an idiot for posting an obviously known copyrighted piece of conent in its entirety. Don't be a troll

*Not you you, but the royal you

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