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Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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Post by firefwing24 »

Jellyfin is awesome, but there's a few caveats for me. - Android TV app is quite unstable. Even if you make it do direct streaming, it's not a flawless playback - Sometimes hangs when clicking next episode. I also kind of wish the login experience was a bit better. - Android App is decent, but for music it's unusable. I'm still using plex + plexamp because that experience is just so much better for me.

But, I don't regret moving my videos to JF. Plex Android app had terrible QA/QC where it would have regressions consistently every month. A bug where rewinding 30 seconds would push you forward instead of backwards would return at least 1 update every 2 months and that was frustrating.

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

#62

Post by joshspankit »

awill wrote: post #11
jszymborski wrote: post #2

I've been a Plex-to-Jellyfin convert for a long while now, and I've nothing bad to say. I switched because Plex kept pushing their streaming services, and the fuzzy feeling I get from running FOSS. Jellyfin used to run on my desktop which has a beefy CPU/GPU, but runs fine on my puny Synology NAS.

I'm with you. I wish Plex they didn't offer a lifetime plex pass, because one-time payments (instead of a monthly subscription) are likely the cause of Plex needing to do all this extra stuff no one asked for to further monetize. I check out Jellyfin periodically, but the last time I checked it isn't quite ready to replace Plex for me. All the apps (ios, Android, Android TV) aren't great, crash, and I don't think the…

I consistently argue that the issue with Plex is not income, but desperately attempting to rebrand as a “legitimate” media centre.

Look at the marketing materials and features from the last few years: Specifically trying to avoid any thought of pirated content.

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

#63

Post by f0e4c2f7 »

Big fan of Jellyfin. I see a lot of comments mentioning problems with the client.

I use it on an Amazon FireTV (you can download jellyfin directly from Amazon's app store, no side loading needed).

It seems to work well on that platform (at least for me).

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

#64

Post by Frank2312 »

flatiron wrote: post #36
oliwarner wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can actually toggle them all off in the settings. You'll never see them in a client after that. I have no problem with Plex doing this. They're trying to show value for a service rather than just gatekeeping premium convenience features. My problem with Plex is the utter distain they show for users by not having any sort proper bug triage. Users throw themselves at a forum that staff members rarely interact with.…

This is a surprising comment! I have a lifetime plex pass from probably 8 years ago. They had a bad release a few years ago that broke some stuff. Made a post. They asked for logs and I uploaded them and they pushed a new build with a fix the next day. Only time I’ve interacted with them and it was super pleasant. My main consumers and my friends with young kids with kid shows and plex runs everywhere and even small…

We didn't have the same experience.

A bug that also affected me was reported at least twice (March 2019 and April 2019[1]).

After 5 months of wait, the OP posted a script he wrote to work around the issue.

A simple path building issue took 8-9 months to get pushed in the BETA channel.

[1] : https://forums.plex.tv/t/dvr-moving-files-from-grab-bug/3967...

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

#66

Post by joshspankit »

flatiron wrote: post #36
oliwarner wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can actually toggle them all off in the settings. You'll never see them in a client after that. I have no problem with Plex doing this. They're trying to show value for a service rather than just gatekeeping premium convenience features. My problem with Plex is the utter distain they show for users by not having any sort proper bug triage. Users throw themselves at a forum that staff members rarely interact with.…

This is a surprising comment! I have a lifetime plex pass from probably 8 years ago. They had a bad release a few years ago that broke some stuff. Made a post. They asked for logs and I uploaded them and they pushed a new build with a fix the next day. Only time I’ve interacted with them and it was super pleasant. My main consumers and my friends with young kids with kid shows and plex runs everywhere and even small…

Depends on whether your wishes align with theirs.

For example: the long-term threads asking for a “TV” mode that will automatically play your library in channel format so that you can go channel surfing.

Even the very very basic version of this (the ability to automatically update playlists) is essentially a dead thread.

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

#67

Post by afavour »

joshspankit wrote: post #62
awill wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm with you. I wish Plex they didn't offer a lifetime plex pass, because one-time payments (instead of a monthly subscription) are likely the cause of Plex needing to do all this extra stuff no one asked for to further monetize. I check out Jellyfin periodically, but the last time I checked it isn't quite ready to replace Plex for me. All the apps (ios, Android, Android TV) aren't great, crash, and I don't think the…

I consistently argue that the issue with Plex is not income, but desperately attempting to rebrand as a “legitimate” media centre. Look at the marketing materials and features from the last few years: Specifically trying to avoid any thought of pirated content.

That’s hardly surprising. Running an ad campaign of “a great place to store all your illegal downloads” doesn’t seem like a wise strategy.

The core problem is that Plex is a business, with investors. Depending on pirated content is not a good model for business success, so they’re trying to pivot. IMO Jellyfin has it right: a non profit, open source solution.

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

#68

Post by tw04 »

firefwing24 wrote: post #61

Jellyfin is awesome, but there's a few caveats for me. - Android TV app is quite unstable. Even if you make it do direct streaming, it's not a flawless playback - Sometimes hangs when clicking next episode. I also kind of wish the login experience was a bit better. - Android App is decent, but for music it's unusable. I'm still using plex + plexamp because that experience is just so much better for me. But, I don't r…

Appreciate the info. I tried it with a shield a while back and the experience was awful. Haven't tried again recently and it sounds like it's not worth the effort. I have endless issues from a business and go-to-market perspective with Plex, but it's tough to switch when the server and video playback have remained mostly bulletproof the last 18 months.

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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Post by wingworks »

firefwing24 wrote: post #61

Jellyfin is awesome, but there's a few caveats for me. - Android TV app is quite unstable. Even if you make it do direct streaming, it's not a flawless playback - Sometimes hangs when clicking next episode. I also kind of wish the login experience was a bit better. - Android App is decent, but for music it's unusable. I'm still using plex + plexamp because that experience is just so much better for me. But, I don't r…

Yeah, when I started out on Plex, I tried the other services (Jellyfin and Kodi and this other dedi music one), and while they all did what was advertised more or less, Plex was by far the more polished solution with the least bugs for my setup. I also really like the Plex UI, feels well thought out and easy to navigate.

Having said that, I keep an open mind, and every few years check out Jellyfin/Kodi etc.

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