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Using RSS to replace social media

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Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the "soy" thing is an overt aspect of alt-right and toxic incel discourse.

Are jokes on the debated but possible phytoestrogenic side effects of soy really exclusively alt right?

No, but the associated cultural memes were born in and currently thrive in the overlapping alt-right and toxic incel cultures. And Luke Smith openly associates himself with the former.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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I think RSS is a way to read social media, it's not a replacement for social media. But that's a good thing! I just want to stay updated with blogs, forums, and social media – in one place. I built and use https://sumi.news to follow Twitter, newsletters, and RSS in a peaceful, chronological feed, and it works well for me. I still comment, reply, and interact, but I only have to check one website for updates.

Why? We could have something federated where I add my response to a particular post/thread to my RSS feed. We then leave it up to the client to generate a proper tree representation of a discussion.

Mastodon uses an HTML microformat called h-feed for federation of user feeds. h-feed is based on hAtom, which is a microformat encoding of the Atom feed format. So your idea isn't all that far off from how the most popular federated social network system is designed (though there's more to it).

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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I use Reeder to follow the sites I enjoy reading e.g. slashdot, ars technica, xkcd, swift and golang blogs, some sections of the NY Times, etc.

I never read social media feed. For Twitter my Tweetbot client is configured to filter out all retweets and I use a 'mustered' list for the people whose tweets I don't want to miss.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Technical correction: YouTube, GitHub and GitLab all produce Atom feeds, not RSS. (Nitter has /rss in its URLs but I can’t confirm they’re actually RSS because the feeds seem to be broken, producing HTML “user not found” error pages.) (If you want to know more of my beef against RSS (both as a technology and as a term for web feeds regardless of actual format): https://hn.algolia.com/?query=chrismorgan+atom+rss&type=…

RSS seems to have taken over as a generic term encompassing both actual RSS and the superior Atom.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious, why do you think it should have been killed off in favor of Atom? Do you mean in the sense of the terminology, or is there something inferior about RSS? Perhaps both should be killed off in favor of a JSON-based format.

Refer to my earlier comments: Atom is technically superior and more sound, and calling them all “RSS” is harmful by encouraging the inferior. JSON stuff? Eh, I feel that’s largely a solution looking for a problem. It’s too late to get universal support in clients (feeds aren’t popular enough and too much of the software basically on life support), so you’re always going to need to serve Atom or RSS as well, and once…

> JSON stuff? Eh, I feel that’s largely a solution looking for a problem.

Before I say anything else, your viewpoint is totally valid. :) I can't truly argue against it in an objective sense, I think.

It's funny that you say that, however, because that's my perspective on XML in general; it's a solution looking for a problem. Sure, we have Atom, it's here, let's just use it, and I kind of agree. Yet if Atom has already been in a sort of decline, if you will, the complexity it adds only detracts from any sort of resurgence in adoption. The entire syntax is designed to support types, which as far as I've seen is something that has never really been used. I mean, whose feed actually uses custom XML namespaces/tags? Feeds are these verbose and overly-abstract markup files for a purpose nobody really asked for. If someone needs to stick more metadata into their feed, they can already do it with JSON by just adding a non-standard key to the object. Done. No need to have anything beyond primitive types or declaring namespaces.

As far as the HTML thing goes, that's a fair point, but I have to disagree. I don't want HTML to taint titles of things in a feed reader. It's bad enough that people can use emojis and different stylized unicode characters in them, but HTML would just make things worse. I don't need titles to have bold or italics or colors or whatnot. If that's going to be in the actual content body, then so be it, but what you are suggesting sounds like a horrible idea. Granted, I didn't have that problem back when I used to use a feed reader.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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It's fascinating to me that even in a post for something as simple and mundane as RSS feeds somehow Luke Smith still manages to sprinkle in some of his disgusting alt-right vocabulary. I have to respect the grift.

I read the page and did not find anything worth labelling " disgusting alt-right vocabulary ". Either put up or shut up with the " disgusting alt-right vocabulary " nonsense. This type of accusation without examples and explanations just why it is " disgusting " and " alt-right " only serves to poison the well from which ideas are drawn, it serves no good purpose. So, show us some examples of that disgusting vocabula…

"unJewgled Chromium"[1] was the first one that came to mind. He's normally a little bit more subtle, but I guess he was feeling randy that time.

I'm not going to dig further through his blog posts (they're insufficiently interesting from a technological perspective; mostly longform versions of what someone with only opinions from 4chan would write), but you're welcome to.

[1]: https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/every-web-browser-absolutely-...

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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> RSS-bridge is the ultimate RSS feed helper and will not just give you RSS feeds for Facebook pages, but basically anything else.

This has been my opposite experience, all RSS bridges i have tried gets error with Facebook pages.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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I'll post this every time someone tries to launder Luke Smith through HN: he is a reactionary with a relatively popular YouTube channel in which he openly espouses and trades in racist talking points[1]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2eYFnH61tmytImy1mTYvhA

That's... bad, and also totally orthogonal to the linked blog post?

Should we not be using RSS to replace social media because the person saying so might be a racist? Should racists be silenced when talking about other things?

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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I'll post this every time someone tries to launder Luke Smith through HN: he is a reactionary with a relatively popular YouTube channel in which he openly espouses and trades in racist talking points[1]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2eYFnH61tmytImy1mTYvhA

Yeah we know. Does not keep me from cloning his st config. But yes, I liked watching his stuff much more when he was going thru his Linux/Dektop setup or advocating useful but little known command line tools.

Not unlike Scott Adams. I find Dilbert funny. Am I supposed not to laugh because his political views do not align with mine (at all)?

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