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Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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> tumblr is fractally broken. it's not wrong in any specific way, it's wrong at every possible scale.

Once, many years ago, my company was working with Tumblr on some kind of integration, and for some reason, the engineer I was working with emailed me a filed called something like tumblr.php that was the “show the main blog page” source. It was one of the most spaghetti-ish overly-long unreadable pieces of shit I’d seen in decades.

So this excellent set of tweets does not surprise me in the least.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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post #7

> tumblr is fractally broken. it's not wrong in any specific way, it's wrong at every possible scale.

This line is likely inspired by the concept of "Fractal Wrongness": https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractal_wrongness

and 2012's "PHP: a fractal of bad design": https://eev.ee/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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These hotkeys in websites are an utter curse. So many times I've started typing in Jira, then something weird happened that caused my keystrokes to be interpreted by the page instead of entered into a comment box ... then the ticket gets reopened, unassigned, etc.

(I feel like we jumped topics from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28597895 ) JIRA's Search is far worse than the regular JIRA hotkeys. The Enter key will incorrectly tab-complete JQL just before executing the search. Meanwhile, the Tab key doesn't tab-complete and instead focuses the Search button (which lets you execute the uncorrupted JQL). You have to actively train yourself out of how everything else works…

It's easy enough for me to try to load a Jira page, start typing something on the search field before the page is fully loaded, which causes all keystrokes to be interpreted as shortcuts. With obviously funny results. It is not uncommon for users in our project to suddenly select all the issues in the product, and assign all of them to themselves by accident (which, unlike delete, shows no confirmation whatsoever).

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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Another fun day a year or two ago on Tumblr involved the old classic top-posting vs bottom-posting debate. I don't remember the details precisely, but it was something like this:

They switched the default from one to the other one day, so that mid day your replies started being top posted. And so you got that wonderful mix of top and bottom posting. Then they fixed it, and so you could have a thread that had just top posting in the middle. Neato. Thanks Tumblr.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOP_(code)

Okay, I've never thought of NOP as "no 'P'", so this caught me completely by surprise and made me laugh out loud.

Same here. Thought about NOPE

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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post #22

These hotkeys in websites are an utter curse. So many times I've started typing in Jira, then something weird happened that caused my keystrokes to be interpreted by the page instead of entered into a comment box ... then the ticket gets reopened, unassigned, etc.

So many times I've started typing in bash, and then realised that my focus has been on a website instead, which starts doing some ridiculous stuff in response. There's no way to discover hotkey functionality otherwise, of course, because "thou shalt not discover" is a modern UX guideline.

A non-zero number of websites have followed web twitter in making '?' produce a hotkey display.

Naturally tumblr isn't one of them.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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post #64

Another fun day a year or two ago on Tumblr involved the old classic top-posting vs bottom-posting debate. I don't remember the details precisely, but it was something like this: They switched the default from one to the other one day, so that mid day your replies started being top posted. And so you got that wonderful mix of top and bottom posting. Then they fixed it, and so you could have a thread that had just top…

You just reminded me that if a Tumblr conversation went on long enough the quotes became smaller, pushed out of the div to the right. Literally unreadable lol

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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True story: One day, Windows wouldn't let me type the letter p. I was trying to log back in from the Windows lock screen. Typed my password, got it wrong. Typed it again, got it wrong. Eventually got locked out of my account, despite being extremely careful to type my password correctly. Went to IT and had them unlock my account... Went back to my PC and tried to log in again. Typed my password very carefully, letter…

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Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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I hope someone reimplements tumblr as an open platform at some point. They got a lot right from a UX perspective.

It's literally the UX that is wrong. Community and their content is why it's still a thing.

I think maybe OP was talking about the overall UI paradigm. The details are janky as all get out, certainly, but the concepts aren't bad at all.

Re: While posting to Tumblr, E and W keys just stopped working

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post #36
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I feel like we jumped topics from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28597895 ) JIRA's Search is far worse than the regular JIRA hotkeys. The Enter key will incorrectly tab-complete JQL just before executing the search. Meanwhile, the Tab key doesn't tab-complete and instead focuses the Search button (which lets you execute the uncorrupted JQL). You have to actively train yourself out of how everything else works…

Above a certain level of complexity, Jira is the best work tracking and managing solution I've worked with. Its curse, is its developed by Atlassian. A company that was capable of buying Stash, and, somehow, somewhat, turned that codebase into what we now know as bitbucket.

If your org needs that much complexity it probably is at a point that the time and money wasted waiting for Jira todo things is probably small in comparison to the rest of the wasted efficiency.
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