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What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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What’s something interesting to read that’s on Gemini?

Gemini is gaining some traction in Tildeverse communities. I run a Gemini server on http://Ctrl-C.club that has a pretty good number of users posting things: gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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> reducing the possibilities Gemini can have Gemini is all about reducing possibilities. If you want more possibilities, use the web IMO

Fair. I certainly think that type of simplistic Gemini has a place in the world. But I think ">If you want more possibilities, use the web IMO" goes against the minimalist ethos of Gemini as well; I don't want something as bloated as the web, but perhaps I do want a comment section of my posts? I think that's not too bloated to be thrown in with the rest of the web. But it might very well be too bloated to throw into…

With Gemini, the philosophy of intentional austerity means that everyone is going to be a bit unhappy, and want some feature added to it. Its "incompleteness" is a necessary consequence of its design philosophy -- it calls on us to accept it "as-is" rather than try and extend the spec. A mailing list for comments, as you describe, would be more "gemini philosophy". This is what the author does:

=> https://lists.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/public-inbox

Mailing lists are a bit out of vogue, but there's no reason not to bring them back into vogue, at least for people sympathetic to Gemini's ideals.

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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Gemini is great, but I'm would love one step up from this. html/css support, no JS. or Markdown with CSS styling or something that's just a little more than plain text but still close.

I've been meaning to try and make my own browser that only supports html/css or Markdown and maybe its own protocol like Gemini's

I'll add it to my ever growing Todo list.

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

#65

I'm a bit annoyed with the lack of _some_ inline image support. but making a browser for gemini is really really easy at least.

You could very easily make a browser that displays image links inline. Contrary to what is suggested in the sibling comments, you don't need to extend the format with special syntax for inline images.

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

#66

This name is so overused that when I see it, I think I know the project in several different contexts. Choose another name… please.

That ship has sailed a while ago. Gemini is already the established name, and doesn't clash with other names in its context.

Sorry to hear that; the project is simply ignored because of naming conflicts “oh, I know that already.”

There’s precedent for renaming projects.

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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People, or businesses, that you know in real life could exchange certificate hashes in person. This is one of those things that usually garners the response "normal people would never do that", but honestly I'm surprised that no-one has even tried. Let's say that web browsers put a short hash of the certificate right in the URL bar. Amazon, for example, could print its hash on every shipping box. Banks could print th…

Many years ago, I was put into a situation where I had to start using online banking. Being skeptical about security, I asked for something along the lines of a certificate hash that could be verified in person. They couldn't answer that. So I tried asking how I could verify that the certificate displayed by the web browser was correct. They couldn't answer that. In the end, I ended up trusting the padlock icon and b…

Nowadays, all certificates have to be submitted to Certificate Transparency Logs and must have attached proof to be considered valid. Also, there are CAA records to ensure that only specific CAs are able to issue certificates.

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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This is only true if you limit yourself to standard character based hash representations.

I feel like whatever scheme you use, if it is too simple there won't be enough unique keys to go around, but if it is complex enough it can be subtly changed in ways a human would find hard to notice.

Isn't the whole point of a hash that you can't "subtly" change it?

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

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I think "dumber" is a feature in this case.

It really isn't. If you want people to use it, you have to provide some utility. If you just want to make a point about how things could be different, you may as well print up stickers that say 'get off the internet and talk to people in person'.

>you may as well print up stickers that say 'get off the internet and talk to people in person'.

The stickers would have less of a discoverability problem too.

Re: What is this Gemini thing, and why am I excited about it? (2020)

#70

What’s something interesting to read that’s on Gemini?

This is the Capcom aggregator, have a poke around: gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/capcom/

This is a fun episodic fiction thing that I found on there: gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/joneworlds/index.gmi

If not, there always the pub: gemini://midnight.pub/

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