Why don't we just use BitTorrent for videos? Popcorn time works reasonably well and we don't need a social layer, there are already plenty of them. I d like to see everything that i like being seeded with care by its owners
Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
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Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Peertube is interesting tech, and YouTube's de facto monopoly on video hosting is less than ideal. Especially considering that it's owned by the world's largest attention harvesting operation.
> de facto monopoly on video hosting How do people believe this is even remotely true? I have so many options to host videos, least of which is just housing itself on my own damn server! I don't know if the complaint here is that no one else will do it for me for free, or that no one else will just hand me viewers for free.
> I don't know if the complaint here is that no one else will do it for me for free, or that no one else will just hand me viewers for free.
Devil's advocate: Which paid video-website with community created content the size similar to Youtube may I join?
That's where the "de-facto" monopoly claim comes from, I guess.
Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
#63PeerTube does not have enough bandwidth to work. Try PeerTube. Here's a cat video. Posted 1 week ago, 38 views, duration 10 seconds. https://peertube.tv/w/tsvCimhEaLSTZD16B3gqBQ Even as the only watcher, and with gigabit Internet both ways at my end, it stuttered, then stalled completely. For short videos, you'd be better off putting them on a shared hosting site as .mp4 files. Peer to peer video hosting is just not…
It also depends a lot on the remote instance, which can be someone's personal PC on a low-bandwidth line. It sure helps if there's more people seeding via the webtorrent integration. I guess the latter will be more of a benefit once PeerTube instances get more active users.
Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
#64Why don't we just use BitTorrent for videos? Popcorn time works reasonably well and we don't need a social layer, there are already plenty of them. I d like to see everything that i like being seeded with care by its owners
Because people don't care about the actual videos, it's the social aspect drives these sites. You could upload a video of paint drying and get an active comment thread going on some sites.
Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
#65Why don't we just use BitTorrent for videos? Popcorn time works reasonably well and we don't need a social layer, there are already plenty of them. I d like to see everything that i like being seeded with care by its owners
Popcorntime does not have channels unfortunately
Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
#66I was wondering who they were and why they were self-saboting. Then I saw that it's a channel with 20 subscribers on youtube with view numbers in the single digits for some videos. So somebody went from not being watched on youtube, to not being watched on peertube. How did this even make it to the front page?
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Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
#67Why don't we just use BitTorrent for videos? Popcorn time works reasonably well and we don't need a social layer, there are already plenty of them. I d like to see everything that i like being seeded with care by its owners
It does use Webtorrent by default (it can be turned off).
Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
#68Before you think of how awful this site is, remember youtube in the beginning as well. This could be a great alternative, especially if they don't remove people without a good explanation, sell your personal info or try to sway an opinion.
Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
#69PeerTube does not have enough bandwidth to work. Try PeerTube. Here's a cat video. Posted 1 week ago, 38 views, duration 10 seconds. https://peertube.tv/w/tsvCimhEaLSTZD16B3gqBQ Even as the only watcher, and with gigabit Internet both ways at my end, it stuttered, then stalled completely. For short videos, you'd be better off putting them on a shared hosting site as .mp4 files. Peer to peer video hosting is just not…
It's not P2P, it's federated. Anybody can host an instance and probably that one has low bandwidth and isn't mirrored by other instances.
Instances like https://tilvids.com/ or https://video.ploud.fr/ have better bandwidth.
Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]
#70Why is the upload bytes always zero for me? (I would guess they dont do NAT holepunch)
I was wondering the same thing. Looks like the videos are shared using WebRTC, which I have disabled in my browser.
WebTorrent (https://webtorrent.io/) is built upon WebRTC, but I believe PeerTube should fallback to simple HTTP mp4. There is a download link handy that you can open in the browser, vlc, mpv or your favorite video player.
https://diode.zone/download/streaming-playlists/hls/videos/b...