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On YouTube’s recommendation system

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Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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> For my oldest daughter, it was finding laughter and community with the Vlogbrothers. And for my oldest son, recommendations brought about a better understanding of linear algebra through animated explainers by 3Blue1Brown—with breaks to watch KSI videos. My first thought reading this was about reinforcing a stereotype as the son learning hard sciences and the daughter watching fun shows about people things. Did any…

Stereotypes don't come from nowhere. Example: https://www.bates.edu/news/2010/12/21/chimp-doll-play/

Here's an even better resource backed by an extensive body of research: https://bigthink.com/the-present/gender-stereotyped-toys/, which is based on https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-021-01989-8

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For me, it seems like youtube's recommendation system mostly gets stuck in the local optimum. Once you watch a video from a particular channel, it'll keep on recommending the videos from the same channel for months. Soon, the recommendation just consists of stuff from the channels that have you already viewed. You rarely see new types of recommendations.

I rarely see things I was 'in to' just a few weeks ago. Weird thing is I don't miss them.

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post #39

For me, it seems like youtube's recommendation system mostly gets stuck in the local optimum. Once you watch a video from a particular channel, it'll keep on recommending the videos from the same channel for months. Soon, the recommendation just consists of stuff from the channels that have you already viewed. You rarely see new types of recommendations.

Visit in incognito mode and don't sign in. Brand new, fresh youtube, ready to be corrupted again.

incognito mode has been the best thing for me lately! it has become my normal browser mode.

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I hate how it has now started slipping Hollywood movies into my recommendation feed. All of a sudden i'm seeing the credits on a 2 hour movie after watching a 15 minute UrbanX video. NO YOUTUBE, BAD. If I wanted to watch shitty movies I wouldn't be on YouTube.

In general I hate how YouTube is now filled with videos from high production studios. And most of these aren't even full-length episodes, but rather ~2 minute excerpts. I miss the old YouTube when most content was produced by individuals.

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I use, bookmark, and recommend https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions , which is just a reverse chronological feed of videos from channels you subscribe to.

I did not know about this feed. It's a HUGE improvement over the algo, really what many of us wanted all along, a feed of the most recent videos published by our subscribed channels. Tx

Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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I can be pretty confident that once I've finished a video, that very same video will be on my YouTube homepage for weeks. It's useless. At this moment, my homepage's first 10 videos include 7 that I've already watched.

Maybe they're being fooled by toddlers who love rewatching the same video over and over again.

Not even that, I bet. I've heard a lot about how YT is used for music by many people (myself included, sometimes), and recommending the song you just listened again probably has a good click rate.

Re: On YouTube’s recommendation system

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If you're logged in, hover over the video, click the three dot menu, then select "Not Interested". If you are not logged in you can't do this, for obvious algo manipulation reasons.

This doesn't work, it will just show more videos I've already seen.

Well yes, it doesn't change the algorithm. It just drops that particular video.

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Why don't they let me tell them the interests that they are trying to infer? I'd be really happy to review sets of recommendations and indicate the kind of videos i like and the kind i don't.

Because this way YOU would have the power to decide what you see, and why, I ask, would the biggest corporation in the world not use this power themselves? They can literally change minds and public opinion using it. Imagine the implications in terms of public police, elections, even the general zeitgeist of the population about the company itself. Google will NEVER allow it's users to decide for themselves what they…

The latest Facebook [leaks](https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-facebook-files-11631713039) by the WSJ has made it clear that these large social platforms have the intent and actively do shape public opinion. YouTube is no different. It's clear that they have political/ideological leanings and intend to use the platform to bend the world to their views.
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