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Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by wintermutestwin »

cinquemb wrote: post #48
wintermutestwin wrote: post #44

More like: "Firefox Browser: 1. It is not google. 2. It's not a Chrome fork maintained by potentially flaky/untrustworthy players. 3. uBlock Origin. 4. Multi-Account Containers."

I wish brave forked ff… i guess i'll be working of my own fork of ff for the end of time for my family, going on 6 years or so now lol

I don't care which core browser tech I use, so I'd take a trustworthy chrome fork that meets my other requirements. Unfortunately, Brave = untrustworthy player: https://brave.com/brave-ads/

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by cinquemb »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #61
cinquemb wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish brave forked ff… i guess i'll be working of my own fork of ff for the end of time for my family, going on 6 years or so now lol

I don't care which core browser tech I use, so I'd take a trustworthy chrome fork that meets my other requirements. Unfortunately, Brave = untrustworthy player: https://brave.com/brave-ads/

> I don't care which core browser tech I use,

Yeah, i do.

> so I'd take a trustworthy chrome fork that meets my other requirements.

Fair enough.

> Unfortunately, Brave = untrustworthy player: https://brave.com/brave-ads/

Yeah, but i can compile that stuff out like i do with the mozilla crap, while still getting some of the core stuff they add like native ipfs support

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by skinkestek »

46756e wrote: post #15
trts wrote: post #2

It makes me sad that FF browser share has continued to decline steadily. The past couple years of releases have been some its the best in terms of my own UX, since perhaps the Phoenix era. It's pretty fast these days, the UI is good, has a lot of great extensions and privacy features. I use Brave at work to have a better chrome-based experience with gsuite. It's also a fast, excellent browser with good privacy featur…

Just out of curiosity, what are some of Chrome's shady dealings? I'm not too informed on the subject.

> Just out of curiosity, what are some of Chrome's shady dealings?

A parent company that could and would literally put ads for it on the front page of Google? (i.e. before a sesrch term has been entered)

This is a place where I'm not aware that anyone else has been allowed to put anything, so if this isn't abuse of market power then I don't know what.

Same with other Google web properties that magically work better in Firefox if you change the request headers..!

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by yabatopia »

errantmind wrote: post #46

I've used Firefox since release but I'm curious what other less popular browsers people are using these days? For example, I have tried Bromite on my phone but the adblocking is limited. I've tried ungoogled-chromium on desktop and the speed is impressive. The main things I want: 1. Speed 2. Speed 3. Native plugins that can preempt network requests 4. Configurable for privacy (referrer, first party isolation, etc) Al…

Vivaldi on desktop. On Android switching between Vivaldi (sadly no support for extensions) and Kiwi Browser (supports extensions). The add-on massacre on Firefox for Mobile a few months ago pushed me over the edge.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by stereoradonc »

Too many distractions from Mozilla (Firefox OS, VPN etc and a complete dissonance from the core- browser. It doesn't help when senior management takes fat bonuses and fires away employees during the pandemic. That doesn't make for pleasant optics and also distanced me away from their product.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by 0xdeadb00f »

betwixthewires wrote: post #39
0xdeadb00f wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This happens often. A shitty opinion is usually down voted but at some point, if nobody's replied yet, then nobody can point out in words how shitty that opinion is, or prompt them for some further explanation.

Is it a shitty opinion? How or why?

Whether it's a shitty opinion or not depends on the mob, the hour of the day and the day of the week.

If you're asking what I think of your comment? I have no horse in this race. I don't care.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by darig »

nerdponx wrote: post #23
starik36 wrote: post #11

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> FF browser share has continued to decline steadily Is that really a fact though? I read somewhere that >80% FF users have Ad Blocker installed. Wouldn't that keep it hidden to Google Analytics and similar outfits that come up with browser usage stats?

HTTP servers can still see the clients' user agent strings.

just go to about:config and set general.useragent.override to anything you want. everything still works fine.

most people just set it to the latest chrome default "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/93.0.4577.63 Safari/537.36" to blend in with the crowd. It is meaningless.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by techrat »

skinkestek wrote: post #63
46756e wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just out of curiosity, what are some of Chrome's shady dealings? I'm not too informed on the subject.

> Just out of curiosity, what are some of Chrome's shady dealings? A parent company that could and would literally put ads for it on the front page of Google? (i.e. before a sesrch term has been entered) This is a place where I'm not aware that anyone else has been allowed to put anything, so if this isn't abuse of market power then I don't know what. Same with other Google web properties that magically work better i…

A company putting an ad for its own product on its own website is not an example of a shady tactic.

"Allowed?" Next you'll tell me that Microsoft should be forced to exclusively advertise other browsers other than their own on Bing before search...

> so if this isn't abuse of market power then I don't know what.

Abuse of market power would be preventing the mention of any other browser when using search and Google has never done that.

Or how about a better example: Apple actively preventing any third party web browsers on iOS, then later only allowing third party web browsers to use the Safari Engine. THAT is anticompetitive.

Google simply has the better product in this case.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by paxys »

I have used Firefox as my daily driver for 2+ years now. Zero problems with compatibility, including many "Chrome only" business apps. A couple Google-owned sites are the only ones that give me trouble, and spoofing the user agent on those has worked great.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by wintermutestwin »

yaman12 wrote: post #37

Mozilla charge money for Firefox. I’m tired of “free” software that sell my data and attention.

So much this! Considering how much of my work and play time is spent in a browser, I would pay a hefty sum for a browser that met my needs and kept me safe from the data thieves. I'd even pay a subscription for this, where many current products do not deserve a sub model.
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