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How Many People Can Someone Lead?

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Re: How Many People Can Someone Lead?

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Well, it is very common in situations like this to have 2 to 4 assistants, and I can't believe without them it would be possible to avoid hard conflicts and even violence on regular basis.

Growing up we had 60 instead of 24 students and 0 assistants and still no violence and less if none bad conflicts

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Re: How Many People Can Someone Lead?

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Growing up we had 60 instead of 24 students and 0 assistants and still no violence and less if none bad conflicts

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I'm not OP, but depending on where in the world you are, classrooms with 50+ students aren't that rare even today: https://www.economist.com/china/2018/09/13/anger-grows-in-ch...

I'm most familiar with China (I taught middle-school classrooms of 55-60 in Yunnan around 2010, and had some friends in Guangzhou teaching 75-80), but I assume there have been & are plenty of countries with similar situations.

Re: How Many People Can Someone Lead?

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It's a wonder anyone wants to do the job at all, knowing all this in advance. I almost became a teacher once. Figured all the abuse would be a degrading waste of my efforts.

Maybe not everyone's motivated by money?

Yea - but maybe for such an important role for society we can actually put up the cash to make it a worthwhile career choice. I've heard the "we don't want teachers who are only in it for the cash" line enough that I want to puke. If you paid enough to attract the leeches legitimate teachers would get them sacked right quick.

Re: How Many People Can Someone Lead?

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But she gets her summers off! /s It's crazy how underpaid teachers are.

Not in Canada

That really surprised me when I moved up here - suddenly I lost a whole class of jokes about how underpaid teacher are. It shows too, you can look at things like IP creation (comedians, musicians, writers, performers) and even vaccination rates to see the benefits investing in education can get you.

Re: How Many People Can Someone Lead?

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Maybe not everyone's motivated by money?

Yea - but maybe for such an important role for society we can actually put up the cash to make it a worthwhile career choice. I've heard the "we don't want teachers who are only in it for the cash" line enough that I want to puke. If you paid enough to attract the leeches legitimate teachers would get them sacked right quick.

> maybe for such an important role for society we can actually put up the cash to make it a worthwhile career choice

The point was what makes it worthwhile isn't cash.

Re: How Many People Can Someone Lead?

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post #62

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Troll? Give some background info if this is to be taken seriously.

I'm not OP, but depending on where in the world you are, classrooms with 50+ students aren't that rare even today: https://www.economist.com/china/2018/09/13/anger-grows-in-ch... I'm most familiar with China (I taught middle-school classrooms of 55-60 in Yunnan around 2010, and had some friends in Guangzhou teaching 75-80), but I assume there have been & are plenty of countries with similar situations.

Good perspective. I would've guessed when you get to numbers like that it would even be worth doing.

Re: How Many People Can Someone Lead?

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Yea - but maybe for such an important role for society we can actually put up the cash to make it a worthwhile career choice. I've heard the "we don't want teachers who are only in it for the cash" line enough that I want to puke. If you paid enough to attract the leeches legitimate teachers would get them sacked right quick.

> maybe for such an important role for society we can actually put up the cash to make it a worthwhile career choice The point was what makes it worthwhile isn't cash.

Cool. But people need to eat and our society (at least in the US) is completely run via cash - you can appeal to higher ideals all you want, but if you're starving out teachers you're going to lose a lot of the good ones that can go into other fields of education and communication.

I think a lot of teachers do value the experience of teaching enough that they'll stick with it through thick and thin - but a lot of folks never even consider teaching due to just how poor the wages are.

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