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Post by smoyer »

int0x2e wrote: post #45
kingkawn wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the bikes being loud enough that everyone knows you’re coming is life and death issue on the road surrounded by huge cars and trucks

Sorry, but as a person with over 15 years of motorcycle driving experience - "loud pipes save lives" is mostly a myth. They may help sometimes, but they can also be dangerous since in some settings they can scare the heck out of the car driver which can lead to them making unpredictable choices. Ultimately, the best thing a rider can do is take total ownership over our safety - full protective gear, constantly taking…

You just reminded me of an incident that happened to me on I83 near the PA border - a motorcyclist passed between me and the vehicle in the left lane (yes ... a two-lane road passing on the dashed line) going about 120 MPH. It wasn't the cycle passing at high speed very close to the car that scared me ... it was that I never saw him/her in my mirrors and the noise between two cars that were 4 feet apart was horrendous. I actually made me flinch at the wheel and I probably swerved a foot in my lane.

I've known many conscientious motorcycle drivers but it's people like this that lead to emergency room doctors referencing "donorcycles".

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Post by sp332 »

amelius wrote: post #13
smoyer wrote: post #8

I live about 5 miles (on the same road) as the local Harley Davidson dealership and would love it if HD riders left the stock pipes on their bikes. While the engines do vibrate, don't dismiss the additional concussive force of an unmuffled exhaust.

Isn't there a legal limit on the amount of dB(A) produced by any vehicle?

Yes, and many aftermarket sets say "not for road use". Harley Davidson was fined for installing them on too many daily drivers. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-harley-davidson-lawsu...

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Post by mhb »

voisin wrote: post #43
amelius wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't there a legal limit on the amount of dB(A) produced by any vehicle?

I would love to see statistics on how many tickets are issued per year for these violations. I suspect zero.

About the same as for leaf blowers.

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Post by mhb »

oskapt wrote: post #47
kingkawn wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the bikes being loud enough that everyone knows you’re coming is life and death issue on the road surrounded by huge cars and trucks

This doesn’t deserve to be downvoted. The statement is correct. I have a permanently destroyed right foot and ankle because someone made a left turn from the right lane just outside the Holland Tunnel in NJ back in 2004. The driver “didn’t see me” before making the illegal turn and planting his Mercedes horizontally across my lane as he slowed to enter the gas station driveway. I laid my quiet 800cc bike down and plo…

If he was making a left turn from the right lane, maybe he would have collided with a car if one had been there also.

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Post by dahart »

kingkawn wrote: post #35
smoyer wrote: post #8

I live about 5 miles (on the same road) as the local Harley Davidson dealership and would love it if HD riders left the stock pipes on their bikes. While the engines do vibrate, don't dismiss the additional concussive force of an unmuffled exhaust.

For the bikes being loud enough that everyone knows you’re coming is life and death issue on the road surrounded by huge cars and trucks

That theory has been tested, and shown that bikes are not loud enough for anyone to hear you coming. https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a35952569/loud-p...

The accident stats also fail to backup this idea, and even suggest that loud pipes might be giving some riders a false sense of safety and leading to more accidents than otherwise. https://canadamotoguide.com/2016/07/29/the-truth-about-loud-...

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

Factorium wrote: post #23

ICE motorbikes seem like the most obvious type of vehicle to immediately mandate 100% EV, with an aggressive target like 12 months (to clear out existing inventory). The segment and vehicles themselves are small enough that this changeover can be made fairly easily, with immense benefits for noise pollution in cities.

You have it backwards. Motorcycle riders are not going to swing over to electric at any time soon:

Bikers keep their rides for decades and

ICE motorcycles can last just as long and cars, if not longer, and

The price for entry on a new electric motorcycle is so far away from the price of ICE motorcycles it financially can not work for owners. And

There is little benefit to the environment to switch. Modern motorcycles have been sold with catalytic converters for decades, and they also get 40+ MPG.

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Post by SquishyPanda23 »

Invictus0 wrote: post #46
gbrown wrote: post #39

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That’s the sales pitch, but I haven’t seen any evidence. Almost all the sound is projected behind you, where people can already see you (and where high-vis clothing would be more effective than sound anyway, but you don’t see many bikers wearing that). Anecdotally, the people I’ve known with loud exhaust systems are not what you’d call “safety conscious”.

Even if it's ineffective, it's still a psychological safety blanket. It's much the same reason that bikers ride in groups.

I'll keep that in mind next time a loud bike wakes up my children in the middle of the night.

"It's okay honey, that man needed a psychological safety blanket.'

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Post by henearkr »

xattt wrote: post #41
dan-robertson wrote: post #31

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I suspect that the noise is a big appeal to motorcycle owners.

Is there an industry name for this specific phenomenon? Where goods are purchased/owned/carried solely for an intimidating appearance without any intent of using for their intended purpose?

A lot of people needing to buy imposing bikes, cars, clothes etc do it because they feel insecure, for example in their masculinity...

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Post by HPsquared »

technoplato wrote: post #56
nicce wrote: post #30

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It is very likely that it is too late on that point. It might be hard to detect or pick up your phone from your pockets when driving. Even harder if it is on chassis somewhere.

Could be interesting sci fi technology to “wrap” the sensitive parts in a shell kind of like a roly poly bug (it would have to be more than a wrap and more of securing foam that disappears, but interesting to ponder)

Simpler to have a little locking mechanism for when the camera isn't in use. Like the head parking "ramp" on some HDDs.
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