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Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Why is IPv6 not a popular idea here?

I work at an ISP and not a single customer has ever even mentioned IPv6. There zero demand on the residential side.

If we're going for anecdata, I called Comcast Business a couple of months ago and asked about IPv6 support. The sales rep asked, "What is IPv6?"

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Why is IPv6 not a popular idea here?

I work at an ISP and not a single customer has ever even mentioned IPv6. There zero demand on the residential side.

I never mentioned IPv6 to my ISP either, I have no problems with the /56 they give me by default.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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> The message above has a timestamp of 16:57 UTC (11:57am ET) on January 20, 2021, moments after the swearing in of Joe Biden as the President of the United States and minutes before the statutory end of the administration of Donald Trump at noon Eastern time. The questions that started to surface included: Who is AS8003? Why are they announcing huge amounts of IPv4 space belonging to the U.S. Department of Defense?…

Was going to ask if this was related to that story. I had thought it was announcing space to gather some kind of intelligence about traffic to those networks, or do an attack on the tor network by providing it all as exit nodes.

I also speculated that it's possible it has to do with some kind of internal policy where if you don't use address space in a certain period of time, you lose it or it must be sold, and announcing it created a record of it being in use. Depending on for how long it was announced, the captured one-way traffic to it would provide a snapshot sample of source-dest relationships in that address space for a map.

It could also have just been used as an internal DoD ASN and it got leaked and announced by mistake, with all those routes redistributed into the announcement, though we'd have to look at the data to really recognize that error. A political hypothesis was fun, but unless it yielded evidence of some underlying activity, there seem like other explanations that could indicate the cause.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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I am a customer, and I just filter out providers that don't have IPv6 as I assume they are incompetent. I wouldn't waste time asking someone to support it. It's 2021.

> I work at an ISP and not a single customer has ever even mentioned IPv6. There zero demand on the residential side. It is one of these things that customers who know they want it will look for an ISP that offers it. There is no point in asking one who doesn't in 2021 because they will be like "oh we will look into it", and then close your ticket. > I am a customer, and I just filter out providers that don't have IP…

I have IPv6 only servers and I am not moving to fiber because the ISP does not offer IPv6 with it. I will move when they offer it.

Out of all the stakeholders in IPv6 migration, I blame the ISPs the most.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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My experience was that my ISP (major cell provider) silently moved everyone to IPv6, did DNS64 for most legacy stuff, and provided RFC1918 IPv4 NAT for anything else. No customer demand was involved, I imagine.

That is one of the most disappointing aspects of ipv6. Even if you implement it perfectly you are still stuck with having to deal with ipv4 with no end in sight. Had backward compatibility been a primary goal, is there any doubt we would have made vastly more progress at this point 20+ years later?

It's an address space expansion. You were always going to need hacky stuff for legacy clients, and for any service that wants to be reachable by said clients.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Not a popular idea here, but IPv6 folks. Even for k8s, even for your internal stuff.

offtopic: ipv6 is fine, but the ipv6 internet is just broken

few days ago I had ipv6 enabled on my pi4 and was trying to update it, turns out that the ipv6 address of archive.raspberrypi.org was returning 404 (its fixed now)

but it took me like 3 seconds to just net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1, and i am not gonna enable it until something on ipv4 does not work

(and by ipv6 i mean native ipv6 from my ISP)

it has been like that for the last 15 years, since we gave native ipv6 to our users in my ISP, people just had worse experience than not having it.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Was it ever common to use 11/8 internally? Did people just roll dice because it wasn't being announced? The reference in the post is the first I've heard of people possibly using it.

I once worked at a place that used 100.0.0.0/8. At the time that range was not in use on the Internet. Not sure if that was intentional or a fat finger. That place was ran by idiots though, so it was probably the latter.

Do you mean 100/8 other than the 100.64.0.0/10 RFC6598 CGNAT range?

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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> I work at an ISP and not a single customer has ever even mentioned IPv6. There zero demand on the residential side. It is one of these things that customers who know they want it will look for an ISP that offers it. There is no point in asking one who doesn't in 2021 because they will be like "oh we will look into it", and then close your ticket. > I am a customer, and I just filter out providers that don't have IP…

I have IPv6 only servers and I am not moving to fiber because the ISP does not offer IPv6 with it. I will move when they offer it. Out of all the stakeholders in IPv6 migration, I blame the ISPs the most.

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Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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I mean, I'd love static both, but I'm going to ask for static v4 first, because I can always run a tunnel for static v6.

Why couldn't you do it the other way around? Run a tunnel for static IPv4 over IPv6.

Because there's not a mainstream (and free) tunnel broker for IPv4.
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