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Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by cortic »

enumjorge wrote: post #42
peakaboo wrote: post #30

People who don't see why platforms like these are critically important has never had an opinion that isn't allowed on the major tech platforms.

By and large what “isn’t allowed” on major tech platforms is racist, xenophobic, and homophobic content. You can still find a lot of non-PC, fringe content on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Reddit. I get that censorship in major tech platforms is problematic, but the sense of martyrdom in comments like yours feels a little overwrought.

The definition of what is racist, xenophobic, and homophobic is different from person to person, mod to mod. There are plenty of rational opinions within controversial topics that are just not allowed. This is compounded with the problem of social media that don't allow anonymity, as laws in some western countries actually criminalize rudeness.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by jim-jim-jim »

pugets wrote: post #46
LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're being rapidly downvoted but to play devil's advocate I wonder if you could explain why you think "American leftism" is "disturbing".

Modern American leftism, at least on social media, is really weird. You have a lot of these so-called leftists rebelling against the philosophies of Marx and other communist philosophers on very fundamental issues (e.g. gun ownership for the proletariat, or the freedom of speech) all because of the current political climate in America. At the same time, these people will support and protect Big Tech and other capital…

In practice I think mainstream liberals are the gleefully censorious ones, not leftists. In a sibling comment I called these guys losers, but you can't argue that they're not walking the walk by setting up their own platforms. The people in these alt communities have been kicked off Reddit for rightfully pointing out how astroturfed it is by advertisers, police, and military agencies, so I'm not sure if you'd find much love for big tech among their ranks.

Setting up your own community with specific standards is totally fine imo.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by rapnie »

nicbou wrote: post #16

My options are "Run a server" and "Join a server" This is not an alternative to reddit, where you would see a front page with content on it.

Run a server / join a server is just your first setup step. After that you join Communities and while these can exist on any other server that yours is federating with (Lemmy has an allowlist for this), you interact with them from your own account on your own chosen server. The federation stuff is now mostly hidden to you, and the default filtered timeline shows stuff from you subscribed communities.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by rapnie »

riffic wrote: post #15

Lemmy implements the ActivityPub protocol, a W3C recommendation.

Here is some more documentation on that. It is a bit outdated, and the latest release of Lemmy brought a lot of extensions and improvements to the federation code.

https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/federation/overview.html

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by hu3 »

unraveller wrote: post #39

The front-end is still buggy and needs a designer's touch. And the real-time aspects wear thin at scale with all the notifications in a mismatch of languages showing up in the main feed. Lemmy is practically unusable without a personal feed filter, it seems that of the new reddit alternatives only retalk_[1] want to get this right. If you do decide to run an instance of lemmy be sure to nuke the absurd word filter -…

For reference, some context about word filtering: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622

And here's the related code: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/3b37ea6c8beeaa57754df...

edit: I don't get the instant -2 downvotes for just providing context.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by busymom0 »

enumjorge wrote: post #42
peakaboo wrote: post #30

People who don't see why platforms like these are critically important has never had an opinion that isn't allowed on the major tech platforms.

By and large what “isn’t allowed” on major tech platforms is racist, xenophobic, and homophobic content. You can still find a lot of non-PC, fringe content on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Reddit. I get that censorship in major tech platforms is problematic, but the sense of martyrdom in comments like yours feels a little overwrought.

> By and large what “isn’t allowed” on major tech platforms is racist, xenophobic, and homophobic content.

That's such a naive and ignorant viewpoint. Everything which one doesn't agree with suddenly doesn't become racist, xenophobic, and homophobic content.

Post from an hour ago:

> Somali feminist: Facebook is being used to silence me

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28452991

Another one from 2 months ago:

> The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27645282

From yesterday:

> The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28443244

Facebook and IG also banned the mother of one of the soldiers who died in Afghanistan last week.

Even women who are against biological men competing in their sports are getting silenced under the label of "transphobia."

One only get to understand what censorship feels like when it comes for them.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by zapzupnz »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #27
jayd16 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Er, hmm, circumcision is very common. Maybe you mean something else?

My understanding is that the far left is anti-circumcision.

More to do with anti-unnecessary-medical-procedures-with-no-benefit-yet-lifelong-consequences-performed-on-infants-without-consent.

It’s a question of body autonomy rather than circumcision as a practice unto itself; obviously, it’s medically necessary for many people later in life.

My understanding is circumcision is just seen as the ‘done thing’ in the US whereas it’s not as common elsewhere. Certainly not as common in New Zealand.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by reginold »

Barrin92 wrote: post #56
reginold wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you say if you were truly anonymous?

nothing I wouldn't say when I'm not. Are you under the impression everyone is secretly homophobic or throws the n-word around when nobody can see them? If I'd be too ashamed to say something if my name is attached to it I wouldn't say it when it isn't. you need to be far gone to manage to get yourself kicked off Facebook.

In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by seszett »

unraveller wrote: post #39

The front-end is still buggy and needs a designer's touch. And the real-time aspects wear thin at scale with all the notifications in a mismatch of languages showing up in the main feed. Lemmy is practically unusable without a personal feed filter, it seems that of the new reddit alternatives only retalk_[1] want to get this right. If you do decide to run an instance of lemmy be sure to nuke the absurd word filter -…

Weird, so you can't talk about Main Coons on Lemmy? Or even say that your train was delayed in French.

That list seems very Americanocentric.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by seszett »

hu3 wrote: post #65
unraveller wrote: post #39

The front-end is still buggy and needs a designer's touch. And the real-time aspects wear thin at scale with all the notifications in a mismatch of languages showing up in the main feed. Lemmy is practically unusable without a personal feed filter, it seems that of the new reddit alternatives only retalk_[1] want to get this right. If you do decide to run an instance of lemmy be sure to nuke the absurd word filter -…

For reference, some context about word filtering: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622 And here's the related code: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/3b37ea6c8beeaa57754df... edit: I don't get the instant -2 downvotes for just providing context.

> I don't get the instant -2 downvotes for just providing context.

Well I don't remember the exact phrasing but I think your original comment did have a part asking people not to discuss this further. I can see how this would not be well received.

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