Russia asks Google to clamp down on Navalny′s ‘Smart Voting′

Post by buran77 » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 10:07 PM UTC

ineedasername wrote: post #59

buran77 wrote: post #44

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Is the principle strictly "murdered journalists"? What about "Guantanamo"? Or "bombing schools and hospitals"? If you find a "but" in there you can already tell what "less principled" means. Sure, Google doesn't intervene directly in any of this but they would certainly cooperate if asked. And they keep working with that government. What's the common principle besides profit and allegiance?

Is the principle strictly "murdered journalists"? Each person decides on their principles. Are you making the argument that it is impossible for anyone to be truly principled, without compromise?

No, I'm arguing that if these "principles" are tied to profit or allegiance (the "who" rather than the "what") [0] then it kind of chips away at their value. All the way down to nothing.

[0] https://64.media.tumblr.com/864c839058d5319d8b1333e613cac53c...

Post by jhgb » Tue, Sep 07, 2021, 4:02 PM UTC

ineedasername wrote: post #60

jhgb wrote: post #54

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> They might not lose, but they could still be embarrassed or greatly inconvenienced by the results. "Embarrassed by the results"? They didn't seem to have been embarrassed by this: https://manipulatori.cz/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Sn%C3%ADm...

What is your point? We're talking about the current election and whether or not Navalny's new initiative will change the way things have gone in the past. By definition, the issue is whether or not past results will be repeated. Pointing to those past results is supposed to mean... what? That things won't change? Maybe they won't. But the claim here is that Navalny's actions might move the needle a little. You can't…

My point was that such results would most likely not lead to any embarrassment since the embarrassment threshold for elections in Russia seems to be very high. I did not say a word about anything changing or not.

Re: Russia asks Google to clamp down on Navalny′s ‘Smart Voting′

Re: Russia asks Google to clamp down on Navalny′s ‘Smart Voting′