Judge in Nokia and Apple lawsuit owned Apple stock during proceedings • Hacker News Board

Re: Judge in Nokia and Apple lawsuit owned Apple stock during proceedings

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Post by marcellus23 » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 7:22 PM UTC

pc86 wrote: post #24

Waterluvian wrote: post #19

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I just checked. I own Apple stock through my RRSP mutual fund. Looks like 0.5% of my investment is Apple. Can I ascertain, about myself, that this wouldn’t affect my decision making?

Even more, if 0.5% of your investment is enough to affect your decision making, you're going to be so paralyzed by analysis paralysis and competing goals you'd never be able to get anything done.

> you're going to be so paralyzed by analysis paralysis and competing goals you'd never be able to get anything done

actually this feels like it describes me

Re: Judge in Nokia and Apple lawsuit owned Apple stock during proceedings

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Post by qeternity » Wed, Sep 01, 2021, 1:03 AM UTC

Nbox9 wrote: post #39

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #16

This article doesn’t answer the real questions: How much stock did he own, how did he own it, and what percentage of his portfolio was it? Apple is one of the biggest companies in the US, so it comprises a significant portion of large-cap index funds. If any of your 401K or other portfolio includes an ETF or other fund with large-cap US companies, you own Apple stock. If you’re invested 100% in a simple S&P 500 index…

I really don’t think how much ownership is the real question now. 1. The judge disclosed it. Presumably he wasn’t doing anything sneaky because he is the one raising the issue. 2. Any ownership required the Judge to recluse himself. Thus (3) 3. (The real takeaway) The verdict of the case between Nokia and Apple is on much less strong legal grounds now. This is the real point.

> 2. Any ownership required the Judge to recluse himself. Thus (3)

Probably a typo but recuse != recluse

Re: Judge in Nokia and Apple lawsuit owned Apple stock during proceedings

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Post by LightG » Wed, Sep 01, 2021, 9:00 AM UTC

LightG wrote: post #59

Revenant-15 wrote: post #53

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Well, good thing they didn't have to compete with today's mobile OS's back then. Android back then was abjectly terrible. They definitely had a shot at the second spot behind Apple, especially in low-income countries.

Agreed, Android was terrible back then, but you could see the trajectory and it was housed and organised under one roof (back when Google were doing some things right), as opposed to Symbian who just seemed too fragmented to get lift off.

Lol at getting downvoted for this. I was there at the time in the middle of it. Any other view is the view of someone deluded by the fragmented promise of Symbian. It was a system that was managed into a situation of grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Thrown on the floor. And the stamped out of existence. Everyone involved at the leadership level should be ashamed ... ruined Symbian and dragged Nokia down with it.

Re: Judge in Nokia and Apple lawsuit owned Apple stock during proceedings

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Post by supermatt » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 8:19 AM UTC

sillysaurusx wrote: post #15

jamessb wrote: post #10

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I think you meant to post in this thread instead: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28366063

I once accidentally posted a comment in the wrong thread, and someone replied with a link to the thread I meant to post it in. I spent the rest of the day wondering how the hell I'd managed to write an entire reply to the wrong thread. Bet they're going through a "what... but how...?" feeling right about now. (I still don't really know. It must be a combination of having HN tabs open, interleaved with articles, but t…

Yep - im going through that feeling right now :D

Re: Judge in Nokia and Apple lawsuit owned Apple stock during proceedings

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Post by supermatt » Mon, Sep 06, 2021, 8:19 AM UTC

jamessb wrote: post #10

supermatt wrote: post #3

> If tech companies fail to comply with the new law, they could face fines of up to 3 percent of their South Korea revenue. Is this appstore revenue or total revenue? If they charge a 30% commission, is a 3% fine incentive to stop?

I think you meant to post in this thread instead: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28366063

Thanks! no idea how that happened!