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But in Europe they barely pay more than a lot of medium-sized companies.
Which medium sized companies? I haven’t seen any that get even close.
Schibsted, TypeForm, I'm sure there are many others too.
I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
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Re: I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
#62I'm currently sat on 2 strong offers in the UK, and think I'm in a favorable position to receive a third. The market is hot right now. I know it's an exceptionally privileged position to be in, but trying to make the right decision for my future, particularly when it affects my partner as well, is really stressful. Interviews vary wildly. Some are pure HackerRank grinds, others are more conversational and want to ass…
Is finding a good recruiter easier than finding a good position?
Re: I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
#63I'm currently sat on 2 strong offers in the UK, and think I'm in a favorable position to receive a third. The market is hot right now. I know it's an exceptionally privileged position to be in, but trying to make the right decision for my future, particularly when it affects my partner as well, is really stressful. Interviews vary wildly. Some are pure HackerRank grinds, others are more conversational and want to ass…
Is finding a good recruiter easier than finding a good position?
The easiest way is to find someone you know and trust who switched jobs, preferably in an impression fashion, and then ask them to refer you to their recruiter.
My current recruiter:
- Checks in with me every day, unprompted.
- Calls me after (and sometimes before) every interview.
- Schedules interviews appropriately so I'm not overwhelmed.
- Respectfully tells companies who aren't moving fast enough to get lost (He did this with several companies once I had my first offer, only entertaining companies that promise an expedited or accelerated interview process so that I can make an informed decision).
- Gives me his honest opinion on offers I received from direct applications or via other recruiters, even when they're favorable and it's not in his best interest for me to accept. He's used these as leverage on my behalf.
- Has contacted me at weekends and bank holidays so I'm not left hanging.
If anyone in London wants a good "C++ in the financial sector" recruiter. Let me know.
Re: I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember this was one of the first things they teach you in Java but in web world eg. react do you even think about that stuff... Unless you see call stack exceeded. That's why part of me does not consider myself a programmer since I'm just building out applications/basic server admin but I'm not worrying about nLogN or memory management. Unless something is really just blatantly bad/noticable lag/bad performance.…
> That's why part of me does not consider myself a programmer since I'm just building out applications/basic server admin but I'm not worrying about nLogN or memory management. Unless something is really just blatantly bad/noticable lag/bad performance. I only recently started to learn about BST but personally have not had to use it yet. There’s a comment I found from a few years back[0] that touches on something rel…
[0] really resonates with my "feeling" about it. Thanks for the link!
Although I wonder if I would want to get out of the industry. While I admire the works of Torvalds and Bellard, and every once in a while dip my toe into low-level works, I feel happy about end-user feedback and making someone's life easier by providing a useable UI to a dataset.
Re: I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
#65Here I am, writing B2C applications, wondering, why after 8 years of professional programming, I never encountered the need for a "heap". Then I looked it up, read about it, and realized that I'm using it without naming it. I know it by the name of the special class I'm using in my language. I wonder if I would fail miserably in an interview, or if it just depends on the questions that are being asked in the domain I…
I used to read a lot of programming books in my early 20s, but experience taught me that everything I don't use on a daily (or at least weekly) basis will end up forgotten in no time. So now I'm just trying to work diligently and integrate stuff that offers immediate benefits. Of course, there are certain situations where, say, mad complex analysis skills would have meant shipping a significantly better product. But…
Yeah, that's what I also experience. Some kind of "erosion of knowledge" is happening over time - and I wonder if that makes me a "bad developer" if I don't actively fight against that.
Sometimes I think I should be able to come up with a sort algorithm from my mind, for instance - but I would have to look up how quicksort is working. I know that something like quicksort or bubblesort exist, but I couldn't tell you how the algorithm behind it works.
Re: I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook in London pays GBP 300K-500K+ though.
Glassdoor says 86-110k GBP. Which is still pretty good for Europe.
Look at levels.fyi, the highest paid E7 is around 250k GBP TC (i.e. base + bonus + shares) and there is one IC6 with 350k GBP TC. But basic devs are in the Glassdoor range, while London is as expensive as SFBA with a much worse weather. Basically a dead-end, like the whole EU right now (technologically finished without a single competitive company after the fall of Nokia).
Re: I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
But in Europe they barely pay more than a lot of medium-sized companies.
That is not my experience in Germany. Maybe for base salaries; but not for total compensation.
at levels.fyi Amazon Germany starts at 66.000€ total. L4 at 87000€ with 2/3years of experience. Imagine sending out 400 resumes, spending months on leetcode, multiple days for interviews and then getting an offer for 66.000€. Edit: it's probably still worth it for getting the compoany name in your resume.
Re: I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
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May I ask which country? This seems very low.
Not OP, but Amsterdam based faangs/unicorns don't pay as much. I'm willing to grind leetcode, but I can't really find any companies in the Netherlands that are worthwhile (that pay significantly better than mid-size companies).
Databricks in Amsterdam pay around 140k EUR.
Re: I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article is about Europe. My total comp as an L5 at Amazon was about $75k, maybe up to $90k if you count the slowly vesting RSUs.
Facebook in London pays GBP 300K-500K+ though.
I (London residing) find that quite hard to believe.
Unless you mean TC which includes share-options "valued at" £200K+ (but likely will barely get £50k when vested after 5 years of active tenure.)
A good salary for principal engineers in London is upto £120k, but can be from half that. There are exceptional cases of higher. Highest I have personal confirmation of is £150k (a friend.)
Across all of engineering, the mean average salary at Google is £66k according to glassdoor, and that's known to be embellished.
Re: I got multiple FAANG offers in Europe
#70Harrowing stuff. I note he interviewed to a wider range of companies than just FAANGs (Booking, Databricks, etc), but ended up getting offers only from Amazon, Facebook, and Google. With no disrespect to Andrey, does that suggest they're actually easier to get into than the rest of the pack?
He was better prepared for Facebook and Google because he explicitly did the LeetCode algo puzzles that are for their companies. Also, he interviewed these companies last because he used the other interviews as "training" steps. Also, he had multiple interviews at amazon (and failed his first one at Amazon Munich). So, to sum up: No, it's not easier to get into FAANG than elsewhere.