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Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Don’t tell people what to do. People don’t watch JRE for Joe (mostly), but for more his guests. Not only that, Joe is great and you’re a hater. Try harder. He’s not perfect but you likely sure aren’t either. Rogan podcast is fine and I recommend it.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron?

If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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haven't paid attention to this since all the drama last year but again - what are all of you using youtube-dl for? Archiving your channel subs?

Safekeeping, offline viewing, producing derivative works (it's great they allow setting CC licenses on videos, but are subsequently hostile to anyone trying to actually use those rights), and viewing on platforms where the browser or player doesn't work (that's been a few years by now though, now that all my hardware is newer and I'm no poor student anymore).

A great example I recently saw is someone extracting the audio feed and double checking the Doppler shift of a passing quadcopter to confirm a speed claim. It checked out and the math was included. Stellar comment. Harder to do if obtaining the video's data is made hard.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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For me, something like this is exactly where Deno would shine. I could just run `deno run --allow-net=YouTube.com --allow-write=.` and not worry about that it could do anything dangerous. Probably the url list would be a bit more complicated, but I could also just blanket allow net without worrying, since allow-read isn't needed.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? Yes. Some of us don't like being assaulted with sales pitches everywhere we look.

Sure, but creators don’t have many other avenues for revenue when you’re already using YouTube-dl(p) to download videos without watching ads. I imagine sponsor spots will be devalued over time as sponsorblock usage continues to grow, especially for creators with audiences that watch content on desktop more than mobile.

Is it apparent to the sponsor when someone is watching using youtube-dlp versus a regular view? I'd imagine most sponsored segments are negotiated based on subscriber count or view numbers.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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haven't paid attention to this since all the drama last year but again - what are all of you using youtube-dl for? Archiving your channel subs?

I've started saving anything I ever watch more than once. Cooking recipes, music videos, learning materials, etc.

I started when a group I listened to removed all the content they had put up over the past year and said it was promotional material for their latest album which was garbage.

Ads have gotten so bad that any videos over three minutes have multiple ad breaks so watching longer music videos or sets are just completely ruined when watching on YouTube.

I wish there was a good set up for single watch videos since the ad algorithm tries to anticipate good places for breaks, which often times is right before punch lines to joke and when you skip over the ad they tend to put you back a few milliseconds ahead of where you stopped which can ruin jokes. I rarely watch for enjoyment (as opposed to learning) on a computer so I don't get the benefit of using an ad blocker like Ad Nauseam.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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I enjoy some of his podcasts. Yeah some are a waste of time but many have been spectacular.

To be fair I would agree with you that some of his guests are great (e.g. Quentin Tarantino) and I do enjoy the long-form interviewing. But Rogan himself, to me, gives off bad vibes. Not really sincere or actually interested in his guests more than he is interested in himself. I find he'll say he's interested and come back with some show of how cultured and learned he is by bringing some obscure minutiae. I think he should be truly interested in his guest and put them in the spotlight.

Sorry to point out the truth but Joe himself is an unaccomplished stoner and promotes lifestyle choices that are repugnant to me. I would never trust him with my kids. So why would I trust him with my time?

Others do a much better job of the long form interview and have themselves provided some value to society on their own merits. Tim Ferriss and Jordan Harbinger to name a couple.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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post #61
post #44

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Don’t tell people what to do. People don’t watch JRE for Joe (mostly), but for more his guests. Not only that, Joe is great and you’re a hater. Try harder. He’s not perfect but you likely sure aren’t either. Rogan podcast is fine and I recommend it.

> Try harder.

See my response to nebula8804

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.

> But what then do you think is a realistic alternative?

Not my department. I'm perfectly happy being a parasite. I used to watch Twitch every now and then. Twitch introduced server side ads and made ad-blocking unreliable and annoying - so i stopped using twitch.

My life doesn't depend on youtube, and if they decide to shut me out or the platform stops existing, that's fine with me. Maybe other video platforms can try out other models instead of that effective monopoly google has on online video currently.

I've also already said that I tolerate non-obnoxious ads. But looking at the rest of the web, it doesn't seem to go in that direction, so I'll keep blocking until they kick me out.

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Love it. The question, especially for the folks around here. When Github eventually takes a stronger stand against this sort of thing, because it is 100% going to happen, are folks going to properly fight it?

They were DMCAed, they got bad press out of it, they eventually stood up for the developer in exchange for a token concession (deleting test data that referred to copyrighted music and was named in the complaint): https://github.blog/2020-11-16-standing-up-for-developers-yo... , and reversed the takedown unilaterally (which would mean the claimant could take github/microsoft to court if they felt like it). Whether it…

I still can't access my fork of YouTube DL with all my custom plugin work on GitHub
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