Did they arrest GoogleBot as well?
Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
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Re: Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
> So they're name dropping Google in the title for clickbait No, Hutchinson found the documents by searching on Google for the meeting minutes. The website might have protected the place where you found the link to the meeting minutes, but the meeting minutes themselves were hosted in a directory that not only was publicly accessible if you had the URL, but also allowed Google's crawler to access it and store it. The…
Yeah but the title makes it sound like Google Drive or something grassed him up. They weren't downloaded from Google, they were found using it
...but that means Google has downloaded it earlier to index it. I guess Google should get raided as well.
Re: Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Police statement from the article: He was taken into custody and later released under investigation. Following a review of all available evidence, it was determined no offences had been committed and no further action was taken So they already dropped it.
“already dropped it” That doesn’t make it okay. Being taken into custody is something I’d consider an overreaction and frightening for a person to endure. They should’ve looked into it before moving to pick them up in the first place. If the shoe was on the other foot- an activist claiming a developer broke in to obtain info- I bet police would’ve done more research.
I personally think it's fair enough, the company probably claimed it was secure, therefore he must have hacked them. The police reacted, but when he could show it clearly wasn't secure and exposed to the public, they dropped it. And hopefully gave the company a private ticking off about wasting police time.
In the UK, an arrest under reasonable suspicion gives them the right to search your property for evidence, and to be honest they had reasonable suspicion, he had private company documents.
It's not like that company can cry wolf again, the police will be far more skeptical next time of their claims, having dealt with them before.
Re: Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
#64This is why people say that the police are an agent of the wealthy to oppress the common people. The wealthy "file a report", and the police "take the report seriously", trampling the rights and stealing precious time of people's lives (and sometimes much worse), but the common people can not do the same to their oppressors.
This is factually wrong. They are doing it based on the principles of equality and freedom. This is exactly what those terms mean. Your freedom is only limited if its execution limits the freedom of others. In this case he was free to browser the documents, but he was also impeding on the freedom of that corporation. Same with equality, it seems immoral when the rich always win. But morality is just a WAY OF DEALING…
Several revolutions along the history of mankind show that freedom will frequently be enforced only by the revolutionary acts of the people.
The government is only an agent of the dominant class.
Re: Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
“already dropped it” That doesn’t make it okay. Being taken into custody is something I’d consider an overreaction and frightening for a person to endure. They should’ve looked into it before moving to pick them up in the first place. If the shoe was on the other foot- an activist claiming a developer broke in to obtain info- I bet police would’ve done more research.
I personally think it's fair enough, the company probably claimed it was secure, therefore he must have hacked them. The police reacted, but when he could show it clearly wasn't secure and exposed to the public, they dropped it. And hopefully gave the company a private ticking off about wasting police time. In the UK, an arrest under reasonable suspicion gives them the right to search your property for evidence, and…
>I personally think it's fair enough, the company claimed it was secure, therefore he hacked them. The police reacted, but when he could show it clearly
it is absolutely not fair. The fair would be if the company had to show before the arrest that it was minimally secure. I mean they for sure had the HTTP transaction in their own logs - like GET document, response 200. They couldn't have reasonably in good faith claim "secure" and "hacking". What the company did is bordering on the false police report, and it would be fair if there were a recourse for the falsely arrested to use against the company.
Re: Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
No where in the article does it say they charged him with anything.
I'm wrong - they didn't charge him. I don't know why I wrote that - I had read the article. But they did arrest him.
That's how the UK legal system works. An arrest is an investigative tool.
Re: Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
How? By investigating a report of a crime, determining it was false, and releasing the guy?
There is no reason to take the guy into custard for downloading a file, he didn't do anything violent, and should be allowed to stay home as long as he cooperates with the investigation. Cooperative people accused of non-violent crimes should NEVER be taken into custody until proven guilty in a court with fair trial.
The reason will have been to secure any potential digital evidence. Could have done it with a warrant, but it's much of a muchness frankly
Re: Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
#68If they checked, who did access the files, don't the police should have seen, there was no password protection? Very strange. And the police nedded al his devices for 4 weeks to check that ..
This job will have gone to some 20 year old PC. It's not CSI.
Re: Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
#69Is he entitled to any compensation?
Not really. They arrested him to investigate and let him go. It's not very nice, but it's lawful and working as intended
Re: Activist arrested by London police after downloading docs found on Google search
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
A British term, means formally charged with an offence. Police compile evidence and/or arrest a person. If the Police think there is enough of a case, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) decide if there is enough evidence to support a 'charge' https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/cps-says-role-cps-deciding-w... Basically Police arrest, looked at the evidence then took no action as Police decided no crime - therefore not c…
Yeah I know what it means. But he wasn’t charged. I don’t know why the person I’m replying to is saying that because it’s untrue.
You are right, he wasn't charged. He was arrested. I was wrong about that.