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Re: Overthinking

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Post by harry8 »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #56
cuddlybacon wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But we don't have the same cultural concern against underthinking. I have never heard someone telling their employee or friend "you're underthinking this". Surely overthinking is bad, but when underthinking can be severely dangerous, it's easy to see why some people overthink. We do this all the time. We just don't use the word "underthink". "You didn't think this through." "It sounds like you haven't gotten to the…

The trouble is those phrases are all quite hostile whereas telling someone they are overthinking can't be construed to mean "your stupid".

"This may be more important that it at first seems."

Re: Overthinking

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Post by Kosirich »

"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind. Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines" I'm not a Tool fanboy, I really ain't, but I use this as kind of "a mantra" when I catch myself overthinking it.

Re: Overthinking

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Post by nivertech »

Kosirich wrote: post #63

"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind. Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines" I'm not a Tool fanboy, I really ain't, but I use this as kind of "a mantra" when I catch myself overthinking it.

"[Ego] super-cogito ergo sum"

"I overthink, therefore I am"

"Dubito, ergo super-cogito, ergo sum"

"I doubt, therefore I overthink, therefore I am"

paraphrasing René Descartes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum

Re: Overthinking

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Post by nivertech »

mdp2021 wrote: post #9
gnulinux wrote: post #6

I'm so astonished that we are so careful not to overthink, to the point we accept "you're overthinking it" as a valid excuse to disregard rare risks. But we don't have the same cultural concern against underthinking. I have never heard someone telling their employee or friend "you're underthinking this". Surely overthinking is bad, but when underthinking can be severely dangerous, it's easy to see why some people ove…

So this friend of mine receives a call from the Director about to evaluate his work, and is told "Clearly you are brilliant, but other colleagues are faster than you... For example, yesterday I asked about X, and see how A was fast in replying?" It was not easy to express that A gave a quick response with a largely false content. It is called rushing, it came from a culture of stopping well before decent quality, and…

"Agile"/Scrum plannings is one example of rushing with design decisions in order to assign the tasks to developers.

Of course you can assign the design tasks, but the rest of the tasks are depend on the outcome of it, so it doesn't work in practice.

Waterfall on the other side, does overly encourages overthinking.

Re: Overthinking

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Post by shrikant »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #56
cuddlybacon wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But we don't have the same cultural concern against underthinking. I have never heard someone telling their employee or friend "you're underthinking this". Surely overthinking is bad, but when underthinking can be severely dangerous, it's easy to see why some people overthink. We do this all the time. We just don't use the word "underthink". "You didn't think this through." "It sounds like you haven't gotten to the…

The trouble is those phrases are all quite hostile whereas telling someone they are overthinking can't be construed to mean "your stupid".

Giggling at the irony of telling someone "your stupid".

Re: Overthinking

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Post by kspacewalk2 »

>we end up with whole countries filled with people who think, think, think but never start doing anything. The result is a lot of debates, whether it be online or on the TV, and stupid & complex rules and bureaucracies coming from people in need to justify all the time they are paid to think, think, think.

Sounds exactly like Canada. The country with the highest post secondary education rates, so much good it does us.

Re: Overthinking

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Post by Kosirich »

nivertech wrote: post #64
Kosirich wrote: post #63

"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind. Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines" I'm not a Tool fanboy, I really ain't, but I use this as kind of "a mantra" when I catch myself overthinking it.

"[Ego] super-cogito ergo sum" "I overthink, therefore I am" "Dubito, ergo super-cogito, ergo sum" "I doubt, therefore I overthink, therefore I am" paraphrasing René Descartes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum

Interesting thought, will the ability to doubt himself forever be that of a human or at some point we will see an emergence of an AI with an imposter syndrome.

Re: Overthinking

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Post by gherkinnn »

What about pure fun?

No ego. No marketing. I don't even the Education section is part of it. The simple amusement one gets of solving a puzzle. And if the actual problem is boring and repetitive, why not spice it up?

Certainly a Poison, but none mentioned by OP.

Re: Overthinking

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Post by dr_hooo »

Kosirich wrote: post #68
nivertech wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"[Ego] super-cogito ergo sum" "I overthink, therefore I am" "Dubito, ergo super-cogito, ergo sum" "I doubt, therefore I overthink, therefore I am" paraphrasing René Descartes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum

Interesting thought, will the ability to doubt himself forever be that of a human or at some point we will see an emergence of an AI with an imposter syndrome.

Isn't "overthinking" the way AI works even today, in a sense? I.e. this is a good solution, but there may be a better one, I should look for it.
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