Ivermectin Systematic Study: Inconclusive • Hacker News Board

Re: Ivermectin Systematic Study: Inconclusive

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Post by dang » Fri, Aug 06, 2021, 11:14 PM UTC

bississippi wrote: post #17

I posted several times how Ivermectin saved my life. The mods at HN have immediately removed by comment as soon as I posted it. Goes to show they are being told to extinguish any sign of dissent over Covid treatment. Scary

That's not how we roll, so it must have been something else.

Edit: it sounds like you're talking about https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27992387. Mods didn't touch that comment. It was killed by software, most likely because you've been breaking the site guideline that asks people not to create new accounts for every few posts they make.

Speaking of which, would you please stop? We ban accounts that do that. You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Ivermectin Systematic Study: Inconclusive

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Post by tptacek » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 1:09 AM UTC

SailingSperm wrote: post #23

MilnerRoute wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Wall Street Journal actually published a follow-up to that "Also related" link, with the headline "Writers Missed Ivermectin Study Retraction (Subhed: "We have egg on our faces.") https://www.wsj.com/articles/egyptian-ivermectin-study-retra...

The link you provided still stands behind the main claim... - "We retract the part of our article that relied on the data from Dr. Elgazzar’s study. But the broader point stands: There’s strong evidence of ivermectin’s efficacy in treating Covid-19."

The problem is that there isn't. A metastudy found that virtually the entire positive affect attributed to ivermectin derived from the Elgazzar study, which was fraudulent. Ivermectin doesn't work on COVID.

Re: Ivermectin Systematic Study: Inconclusive

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Post by tptacek » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 1:12 AM UTC

NomeChomsky wrote: post #26

powera wrote: post #14

I've done my own "literature review" [ https://www.notion.so/The-Cure-for-COVID-19-e052c9d829d34bc4... ], and "Inconclusive" is correct. It's astonishing that after 18 months of COVID and 12 months of rumors this type of question is unanswered. So we have one band of Twitterati saying it is the "Crime of the Century" that Ivermectin is not being used, and another band saying you'd have to be an idiot to take horse pi…

The Oxford study is using patients so far down the viral infection it has most certainly been designed to fail. All the evidence suggests ivermectin works best when used early, and Oxford plan to use it on late stage patients. Funny that - given that Oxford are being funded by the pharma companies to make the vaccine and novel therapies. Never bite the hand that feeds you and all. I don't know why we are expected to…

You are commenting on a thread about a Cochrane meta-review of the available studies that concludes that there is no conclusive evidence that ivermectin works. They know about the studies; that's the point. They don't show what you want them to.